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use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby pmda » Thu May 06, 2010 6:46 pm

If this is the wrong place to post this question then let me know. In Orberg's Lingua Latina on page 27 there is the sentence 'Pecunia tua hic non est'. Now given that pecunia is feminine and is singular why isn't it: 'Pecunia tua haec non est'.??? I am taking it that the gender of 'hic' is governed by the gender of the thing that's 'here' - i.e pecunia and therefore should be feminine - haec. Where am I going wrong? Thanks.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby pmda » Fri May 07, 2010 1:53 pm

To answer my own question. It seems that Hic is not declined when used as an adverb 'here' but when used as a pronoun 'This money' it is.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby Episteme » Fri May 07, 2010 3:50 pm

You are right that hīc is the adverb "here," but an adverb does not have to agree with any of the nouns in a sentence. It just sits there, unchanged.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby furrykef » Fri May 07, 2010 4:09 pm

Finally a question even I can answer! :)

The answer is that 'hic' and 'hīc' are different words. To be specific, 'hic' is a masculine adjective or pronoun meaning 'this', whereas 'hīc' is an adverb meaning 'here', and since it's an adverb, it doesn't decline for number or gender.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby Episteme » Fri May 07, 2010 5:35 pm

I submitted a response to this query sometime this morning, so I apologize if my post (whenever it is eventually posted) seems redundant. I'm not trying to pile on or repeat what others have written--it's just that, when I posted, Kef's reply wasn't there yet.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby furrykef » Sat May 08, 2010 6:10 pm

Hmm, I'm guessing this board is moderated such that posts won't appear until approved. I was wondering how I'd missed a thread that had been posted the previous day...
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby mingshey » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:58 am

furrykef wrote:Hmm, I'm guessing this board is moderated such that posts won't appear until approved.

And that's one of the reason I stopped frequenting this forum.

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But look! This post appeared right away on the thread as soon as I clicked the "submit" button! Is the system changed back to the good old days?
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby edonnelly » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:12 am

mingshey wrote:But look! This post appeared right away on the thread as soon as I clicked the "submit" button! Is the system changed back to the good old days?


I think there was a post sometime earlier by Jeff saying only people who have less than X (I'm guessing 10) posts need to have their posts approved. I'm not 100% sure about that, though.
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Re: use of hic as opposed to haec

Postby Smythe » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:12 pm

edonnelly wrote:
mingshey wrote:But look! This post appeared right away on the thread as soon as I clicked the "submit" button! Is the system changed back to the good old days?


I think there was a post sometime earlier by Jeff saying only people who have less than X (I'm guessing 10) posts need to have their posts approved. I'm not 100% sure about that, though.


Yep. Ten is correct. My eleventh post and later all just went right on through.
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