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the most essential Ancient Greek text poll

the most essential Ancient Greek text poll

Postby daivid » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:41 pm

There is a condorcet voting site that allows one to make polls so I have done one
on the most essential Ancient Greek text

https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/vot ... 16154c1caa
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Re: the most essential Ancient Greek text poll

Postby mwh » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:30 am

The Iliad, inescapably. I’d go so far as to say it’s the only essential one on the list.
With the others, essential to what?
I’d rank the Anabasis at the bottom, but I didn't vote except for the Iliad.
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Re: the most essential Ancient Greek text poll

Postby jeidsath » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:39 pm

If you were to ask the average educated American to describe scenes from the Iliad, none of the examples that he would give you would be scenes from the Iliad. In fact, here are the scenes that he would probably list:

The Trojan Horse
Achilles killed by an arrow to the heel
The Judgment of Paris
Agamemnon killed in the bath

For the Judgement of Paris, what was the ancient version of the story? I have the impression that Herodotus’ and Homer’s version of how Paris got Helen may not have included golden apples and godesses at all.
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Re: the most essential Ancient Greek text poll

Postby daivid » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:55 pm

mwh wrote:The Iliad, inescapably. I’d go so far as to say it’s the only essential one on the list.


Well it seems that almost everyone agrees with you so there must be a reason for that but I confess I'm surprised. I have never been able to read more that a few lines in Ancient Greek but even in translation there was such remorseless of the violence has meant that I have never got very far. The Attic playwrights can also be a bit grim but they do seem to have more to say.

mwh wrote:With the others, essential to what?
I’d rank the Anabasis at the bottom, but I didn't vote except for the Iliad.


I intentionally left it open expecting people would rank different things higher for different reasons but instead it has been such a landside that I really didn't have to go off site for the poll - a textkit poll would have done the job just as well.

I did only put Anabasis second but he is a good story teller and quite a lot of it is probably true and even the bits that are a bit suspect are at worse covering up the truth rather than pure fiction.
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