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De Rerum Natura 1:10 patefactast

Postby mjanderson » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:45 pm

Salvete,

I've been used to medieval Latin, and I've decided to dip into some classical for a change. However, in trying to read through Lucretius' De rerum natura, I've been coming across some unfamiliar patterns. One in particular has been stumping me: patefactast. Here is the context:
nam simul ac species patefactast verna diei
et reserata viget genitabilis aura favoni

And here is the Loeb translation:
For as soon as the vernal face of day is made manifest, etc.

On Perseus, the word is parsed as being a perfect passive participle in various forms ending in -a. So, my guess is that the word patefactast is a crasis of patefacta + est. I'm not sure how else to make sense of it. Maybe I'm overlooking something obvious here; can anyone else see what's going on better than me? Thanks!

- Michael Anderson
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Re: De Rerum Natura 1:10 patefactast

Postby modus.irrealis » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:58 pm

You're right about it being patefacta + est. Although the description fits in this case, it's technically not crasis. Basically, instead of "est" there's just "-st". See http://books.google.ca/books?id=a6wAAAA ... =&as_brr=3 where they have examples like homost = homo est, periculumst = periculum est, ausust = ausus est.
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Re: De Rerum Natura 1:10 patefactast

Postby mjanderson » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:04 pm

Thank you very much!
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Re: De Rerum Natura 1:10 patefactast

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