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Postby little flower » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:58 pm

hi again
could you help me translate a few lines?

Vivamus mea Lesbia atque amemus
Rumoresque senum severiorum
Omnes unus aestimemus assis.

Let us live my Lesbia and let us love
and all the rumours of being very austere
we will value little.

thanks in advance.
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Re: catullus

Postby spiphany » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:15 pm

For Rumoresque senum severiorum try: "All the gossip of rather austere old men" (senum -> senex, here used as a noun)
IPHIGENIE: Kann uns zum Vaterland die Fremde werden?
ARKAS: Und dir ist fremd das Vaterland geworden.
IPHIGENIE: Das ist's, warum mein blutend Herz nicht heilt.
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Re: catullus

Postby Imber Ranae » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:38 pm

That should be unius aestimemus assis. That's genitive of quality/value, "we will consider the worth of a single penny."
Ex mala malo
bono malo uesci
quam ex bona malo
malo malo malo.
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Re: catullus

Postby vir litterarum » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:20 am

Imber Ranae wrote:
"we will consider the worth of a single penny."

"aestimemus" is not future indicative but present hortatory subjunctive, i.e. "let us value..."
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Re: catullus

Postby galen697 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:47 pm

spiphany wrote:For Rumoresque senum severiorum try: "All the gossip of rather austere old men" (senum -> senex, here used as a noun)

I've generally translated "severiorum" as "more stern" old men, which I think better reflects the group of people he's describing that disapprove of Catullus' Bohemian, neoteric lifestyle.
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Re: catullus

Postby Scribo » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:57 pm

I'm boring, I use "severe"
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