-atus ending for -ship

[Junya]

Hi.
I am not sure I can ask such a trivial thing as this here, and I am reluctant to post it.
But for an experiment I try posingt this today.

I saw <apostolatus> "being apostle, apostleship".
It is made by putting -atus ending to <apostolus>.
Then, -atus ending means <being..., -ship> ?
Do you know other examples with -atus ending?

[adrianus]

Salve, Junya.
Here are nouns ending in "atus" (omitting substantives).
Ecce omnia nomina quae in "atus" terminantur. Substantiva detraho.

"abdicatus abigeatus acatus adfatus adflatus adgnatus adhortatus adlegatus adnotatus adnotatus adoptatus adparatus adstatus adstipulatus adtrectatus advocatus advolatus aemulatus aestimatus affatus afflatus agitatus agnatus albatus allegatus ancillatus animatus annotatus annotatus antetestatus apparatus arbitratus arcuatus armatus armatus arquatus astatus astipulatus atnatus attrectatus auctoratus auguratus auscultatus auspicatus auxiliatus balatus batus beatus beneficiatus bigatus bimatus biselliatus boatus bracatus bratus cacatus caculatus caelibatus caetratus calcatus calceatus calciatus calcitratus caligatus candidatus candidatus capillatus castratus cavillatus centuriatus centurionatus certatus cibatus circumdatus cirratus citatus clipeatus clupeatus cnatus coelibatus cogitatus cognatus collatus colostratus comitatus comitiatus comitiatus commeatus communicatus commutatus comparatus comperendinatus comploratus conatus conchyliatus conciliatus concubinatus condiscipulatus conjuratus conlatus conparatus conperendinatus conploratus consceleratus conspiratus consulatus contaminatus contemplatus corporatus crabatus creatus cristatus cruciatus curionatus cyatus decemviratus declinatus delegatus delicatus depectulatus despicatus domesticatus dominatus ducatus duumviratus ecfatus effatus einlatus ejulatus equitatus evocatus famulatus flatus gnatus grabatus granatus gustatus hastatus hiatus incolatus indagatus inquilinatus latratus latus legatus lymphatus magistratus meatus mercatus municipatus narratus natus natus nominatus obaeratus patriciatus peccatus peculatus pedatus peditatus pelicatus ploratus pontificatus populatus potentatus primatus principatus privatus proconsulatus quinqueviratus reatus relatus reptatus saltatus sceleratus senatus serratus seviratus Socratus status stellionatus stratus summatus suspiratus tractatus tribunatus triumviratus ululatus venatus verberatus victoriatus vigintiviratus vocatus volatus xviratus Amatus Honoratus Deodatus Acrodatus"

Now to think about your question...
Nunc tuam quaestionem secum reputare...

[adrianus]

Adjectives ending in "atus" which could operate as substantives (543)

abalienatus abominatus acceptatus accommodatus accomodatus accuratus aceratus aculeatus acuminatus adcommodatus adcuratus adfabricatus adfectatus adgnatus adipatus adjaculatus adminiculatus adparatus adplicatus adsimilatus adsimulatus adstatus adtenuatus adtertiatus adtestatus adulteratus adumbratus aeratus aestimatus affabricatus affectatus agitatus agnatus alatus albatus albiceratus alternatus aluminatus alveatus alveolatus amatus ambustulatus amethystinatus amminiculatus amothystinatus animatus ansatus anulatus apiatus apicatus apocatus apochatus apparatus applicatus aquatus arcuatus arenatus argentatus aristatus armatus armillatus arquatus artatus assimilatus assimulatus astatus atratus attenuatus attertiatus attestatus auguratus auratus auspicatus autocratus automatus bacatus baeticatus balanatus barbatus beatus belliatus belluatus beluatus biformatus bigatus bimatus bituminatus bonatus bracatus bracchiatus brachiatus bracteatus bratteatus bullatus caduceatus caecatus caenatus caeruleatus caesariatus caetratus calamistratus calcatus caligatus calliblepharatus caloratus calvatus canaliculatus cancellatus candidatus cantenatus canteriatus cantheriatus canusinatus caperatus caperratus capillatus capitatus capitulatus cardinatus carinatus caseatus castigatus castratus catafractatus catenatus cathedratus catus cavatus caveatus celebratus cenaculatus cenatus centuriatus ceratus cerussatus characatus chlamydatus chrysographatus cincinnatus circinatus circumforatus circumglobatus circumtumulatus cirratus citatus citratus clatratus clavatus clinatus clipeatus clupeatus coagulatus coccinatus coculeatus coexercitatus cogitatus cognatus cognominatus coleatus collaceratus collatatus coloratus colostratus columnatus comatus comitatus commendatus compluviatus concamaratus concameratus concatus concavatus conchatus conchiclatus conchyliatus conciliatus concinnatus concitatus concomitatus confirmatus congelatus congenatus congeniclatus congenuclatus congermanatus conjugatus conjuratus conlaceratus connudatus conpluviatus consacratus consceleratus consecratus consideratus consociatus conspiratus conspissatus consternatus constratus consummatus contaminatus contestatus continuatus contortiplicatus conturbatus copulatus cordatus cornatus corniculatus coronatus corporatus corticatus costatus cothurnatus coturnatus creatus crebratus crepidatus cretatus cristatus crocatus cruentatus cubiculatus culpatus cultellatus cultratus cumulatus cunctatus cuneatus cuniculatus curatus curiatus curvatus cycladatus cylindratus damnatus dampnatus decalicatus decemplicatus deculpatus decurtatus dedicatus defamatus defrenatus deisatus deliberatus delicatus deliciatus dentatus denticulatus deoratus depilatus deploratus desideratus designatus desperatus despicatus dessignatus destinatus diadematus dicatus diffamatus dimidiatus dissociatus dotatus dulcoratus eboratus effeminatus efferatus effrenatus elatus emancipatus enucleatus ephippiatus evestigatus eviratus examinatus excalceatus excuratus exercitatus exornatus expurgatus exsaturatus faecatus falcatus farratus fastigatus fatigatus feriatus ferratus filicatus fimbriatus foederatus foliatus fornicatus fortunatus fossatus fulguratus galeatus gausapatus gemmatus geniculatus Graecatus granatus gratus gravatus gypsatus gyratus hamatus harenatus harpagatus hastatus honoratus honorificatus hortatus illibatus illiteratus immaculatus immemoratus immetatus immoderatus immodulatus impacatus imparatus imperiuratus imperturbatus implacatus implicatus improperatus impuratus inadfectatus inaratus inattenuatus inauspicatus incastigatus incelebratus incenatus incitatus incogitatus incomitatus incommendatus incomtaminatus inconsideratus incruentatus inculpatus incunctatus incuratus indeclinatus indelibatus indemnatus indeploratus indevitatus indotatus indubitatus inexercitatus inexploratus inexspectatus infabricatus inflammatus inflatus infortunatus infrenatus infricatus infucatus ingratus ingustatus inhonoratus inhumanatus inhumatus injudicatus injuratus inlaudatus inlibatus inlitteratus inmaculatus inmemoratus innatus inobservatus innominatus inopinatus inoratus inordinatus inornatus inreligatus inrevocatus insalutatus insperatus inspoliatus intaminatus intemeratus intemperatus intemptatus interminatus intestatus intractatus intumulatus inusitatus inveteratus inviolatus invisitatus invulneratus iratus irreligatus jubatus juratus lanatus laqueatus latus laureatus laxatus lemniscatus limatus linteatus litteratus loculatus loratus loricatus lunatus lupatus lymphatus malleatus manicatus marmoratus miniatus mitratus moderatus modificatus moratus muratus natus necopinatus nummatus obaeratus obnatus obstinatus ocreatus octuplicatus oculatus odoratus optatus orbiculatus ornatus pacatus paenulatus paleatus palliatus palmatus paludatus paratus parmatus pejeratus pejuratus peltatus pennatus peraccommodatus perbeatus pergratus periratus peronatus perornatus perplicatus personatus petasatus pexatus phaleratus pharetratus picturatus pilatus pinnatus piperatus placatus plicatus plumatus postatus potionatus praeferratus praemedicatus praepilatus praeputiatus praetextatus privatus profligatus prognatus pullatus pulvinatus purpuratus quadratus quadrigatus ratus reptatus reticulatus rostratus rubricatus sacratus sagatus sagittatus satus scalpratus sceleratus scutatus sedatus segmentatus seiugatus semicrematus semiputatus semiustulatus semustulatus sericatus serratus sigillatus sordidatus stellatus stolatus subiratus subpuratus sulfuratus superlatus suppernatus suppuratus tabulatus temperatus tertiatus tessellatus testatus testudinatus togatus tornatus torquatus trabeatus tractogalatus tunicatus turpificatus ululatus uncinatus unguentatus usitatus venenatus viduatus virgatus viscatus vittatus vulgatus yatus

Still to think about your question...
Atqui tuam quaestionem secum reputare...

[adrianus]

Nomina quae in "-us" et "-atus" terminantur:
" abigeus acus aemulus agnus albus animus armus armus arquus astus auxilius bus beus bigus bimus bracus calcus calceus candidus candidus capillus cavillus centurionus certus cibus cirrus citus clipeus clupeus collus comperendinus conus concubinus condiscipulus conperendinus curionus delicus despicus domesticus dominus famulus gustus inquilinus meus patricius pontificus populus primus privus reus saltus tractus tribunus"
Adjectiva/substantiva quae in "-us" et "-atus" terminantur:
" acceptus accommodus accomodus acerus aculeus adcommodus adfectus adminiculus adulterus affectus agnus alus albus albicerus alternus alveus alveolus amethystinus animus anulus argentus armus arquus artus astus balanus barbus beus beluus bigus bimus bonus bracus brachius caduceus caecus caeruleus calcus calliblepharus calvus canaliculus cancellus candidus canterius cantherius capillus carinus caseus catafractus cavus cincinnus circinus cirrus citus citrus clavus clipeus clupeus coccinus coleus collatus concavus concinnus concitus congermanus consocius continuus cordus cornus corniculus costus cothurnus coturnus cretus crocus cruentus cultellus cumulus cunctus cuneus cuniculus curius curvus cylindrus delicus delicius denticulus despicus dimidius efferus effrenus exercitus Graecus grus gyrus hamus honorus honorificus hortus impurus incitus incruentus infrenus inhonorus inhumanus injurus inopinus laqueus laureus laxus lemniscus limus linteus loculus lorus lupus malleus minius morus murus necopinus nummus oculus odorus orbiculus ornus palmus petasus pilus praetextus privus pullus pulvinus quadrus rus reticulus sus semicremus sericus sordidus tornus uncinus viduus viscus vulgus"

Still to think about your question... but there may be an answer in this list.
Atqui tuam quaestionem secum reputare...sed nonne responsum ad tuam quaestionem hic in catalogo invenietur?

Ecce! Primum quod video! condiscipulus = pupil; condiscipulatus = school companionship
Sine dubito, alia hic invenientur.
Exempli gratiâ,
abigeus = cattle thief; abigeatus = cattle theft
aemulus = rival; aemulatus = rivalry
animus = breath, mind; animatus = breathing
dominus = master; dominatus = mastery, rule
famulus = slave; famulatus = slavery
inquilinus = foreigner, lodger; inquilinatus = sojourn or period of lodging away from home
curionus = priest over a curia; curionatus = his office or "curia-ship"
patricius = patrician; patriciatus = status of patrician
et caetera

[Kyneto Valesio]

hey everybody

Junya's example, apostulatus, is I believe from the 4th declension. As are the examples that Adrian provided

abigeus = cattle thief; abigeatus = cattle theft
aemulus = rival; aemulatus = rivalry
animus = breath, mind; animatus = breathing
dominus = master; dominatus = mastery, rule
famulus = slave; famulatus = slavery
inquilinus = foreigner, lodger; inquilinatus = sojourn or period of lodging away from home
curionus = priest over a curia; curionatus = his office or "curia-ship"
patricius = patrician; patriciatus = status of patrician

all of which seem to me to embody the idea of -ship. Dominatus = mastership, famulatus = slaveship etc. To curionatus I will add consulatus, consulship. So yes, with reference to 4th declension nouns "atus" would seem to mean -ship even if it can't always be tacked on idiomatically.

best to all

[Junya]

Thank you Adrianus, and Kyneto, thank you, for the clear answer.

Amazing! Adrianus, how did you do ths survey?
Could you explain it?
And, the survey needs much eye labor, your survey this time being so too.
Can you tell me how you protect your eye from getting ill by the eye work?
I now have a very bad eye condition.
I get sick from using eye for study and for pc.
I get sick especially by pc, internet, so I am restricting the use of internet these days.

[metrodorus]

http://latinum.mypodcast.com/2007/04/La ... 11506.html

Latin Suffixes - TUS,SUS,iTUS
These are mainly derived from verbs, and denote 'the act of doing', 'the being'

The general link to the whole suffixes archive is here:
http://latinum.mypodcast.com/200714_archive.html

Metrodorus

[adrianus]

I'll explain soon, Junya. I can't at the minute because a lot of things are happening just now. Please forgive me. Hi Kynetus!
Mox, Junya, tibi respondebo et explicabo. Iam iam non possum quia multa fiunt. Me excuso. Salve Kynete!

[Junya]

Adrianus, it is ok if you can't have time for answering. I just asked. I was curious how other people are protecting their eyes while studying. Don't mind. I know that you are a kind person.


By the way, textkit notification email fails to come to me these days. Something wrong is going on in the system?


Thank you Metrodorus. So far I have not tried Latinum and not been familiar with it. I try it this time.

[adrianus]

I am very sorry to learn of the problem with your eyes, Junya. I do hope you get some improvement or relief there.

You asked how I compiled the lists. Well, the eyes may get weary but the computer doesn't. I am interested in implementing synthetic voice and natural speech in eLearning programs, and I wanted to learn latin to help me approach problem solving in this area in a more objective manner to produce generalizable solutions. The work has a long way to go before it is complete. More than likely, I will not realize all my ambitions, but I have produced a number of very useful tools. I used William Whitaker's dataset as a starting point and have been expanding it for my purposes ever since. I adapted some of my search routines to produce the lists you see above from my own lexical dataset.

Sincerè, Junya, de cruciatu quo doles audire me paenitet. Tibi subsidium sit.

Quomodo me illos catalogos composuisse rogavis. Immò, oculi fatigati fiant, sed ordinatrum nunquam. Voces syntheticas atque orationem naturalem ordinatralibus in discendo complectere me tenet. Ut, modo objectivo, instrumenta resolutionesque prolixissimas et universales factas sint (ut putavi), linguam latinam discere volui. Longa est via ad perfectionem harum operarum. Probabiliter, ambitiones mihi omnes non amoliantur; nonnulla autem instrumenta utilia iam feci. Corpore datorum Guilielmi Whitaker initio usus sum, quod meo consilio exporrigere non desino, Ut catalogos quos suprà vides pararem, partes programmationis ad quaerendum dictiones in datibus lexicalibus meis apta adaptavi.

[Junya]

Thanks Adrianus. Oh, you used pc to make that word list.
My front tooth is getting a tooth decay from using of eyes.
I see nothing on the tooth, no decaying, but it feels very strangely and sometimes hurts when I study.
Using the eye is the cause of this problem.
If I get tooth decay, it would be miserable, it would affect horribly on my appearance.
Maybe I should stop studying and internet for a while.

[adrianus]

sinusitis Inflammation of the sinuses, due to an infection or an allergic reaction. Probably the most common cause of pain in and around the eye. Symptoms include head pain (headache, pain around the eyes, toothache, jaw pain), nasal discharge, postnasal drip, coughing, eyelid swelling, swelling around the eyes, a stuffy nose, fatigue, bad breath and a sore throat.

Sinusitis, Junya?

[Junya]

You use the internet very well, Adrianus.

I don't know the Sinusitis, but many of the symptoms apply to me. These apply, "head pain", "headache", "pain around the eyes", "toothache", "nasal discharge", "postnasal drip"( though I don't know what the "postnasal" is.), "coughing", "a stuffy nose"," fatigue".

[adrianus]

You should speak to a doctor about your symptoms, Junya.
Medico loqui de symptomatibus tuis te oportet.

Sinusitis: Sinusitis is inflammation of the lining membrane of any of the hollow areas (sinuses) of the bone of the skull around the nose. The sinuses are directly connected to the nasal cavities.

Sinus (verbum latinum). Postnasal (English) -- back of the nose / behind the nose = "post-nasalis" adjectivum (Latiné)

De "post-nasal drip", vide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-nasal_drip et http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusitis

[Junya]

Adrianus, thank you for searching about my illness.

I had bad nose conditions when I was an elementary school kid, and I went to the doctor every day. This might be the continuation or development of the childhood illness.