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Should the stress fall on the third syllabus?
How to pronounce "energicus"?
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
The "ī" is long (because of energīa from ἐνέργεια ), so it must carry the accent.
Check my recording: http://linguax.com/energiicus_godmy.mp3
(if the second to last syllable is long either because of two consonants following the vowel in that syllable or because of a long vowel, it must carry the accent, otherwise the third one carries it)
Check my recording: http://linguax.com/energiicus_godmy.mp3
(if the second to last syllable is long either because of two consonants following the vowel in that syllable or because of a long vowel, it must carry the accent, otherwise the third one carries it)
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
Godmy is correct in stating rule about Latin pronunciation. However, I cannot find energicus in any Latin dictionary.
Corrections are welcome (especially for projects).
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
It is a new derivation, no doubt (but it doesn't stand in our way in solving this problem (or in understanding it) )
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
The trouble is the i is not necessarily long in energicus just because the i of energia is long.Godmy wrote:The "ī" is long (because of energīa from ἐνέργεια ), so it must carry the accent.
What happens with magia/magicus?
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
For what is worth, in Italian we say enérgico (and mágico)Victor wrote:The trouble is the i is not necessarily long in energicus just because the i of energia is long.Godmy wrote:The "ī" is long (because of energīa from ἐνέργεια ), so it must carry the accent.
What happens with magia/magicus?
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
You are right, on the other hand: the derivation of the magicus adjective from magīa was done here already in Greek in μαγικός . With energīcus/energicus we derive it purely in a Latin environment (though you could theoretically think of the derivation here happening through Greek too, analogically), so I wouldn't rule out the ī completely... (it depends if you think of the Latin suffix just as about "-icus" or "-cus")Victor wrote:The trouble is the i is not necessarily long in energicus just because the i of energia is long.Godmy wrote:The "ī" is long (because of energīa from ἐνέργεια ), so it must carry the accent.
What happens with magia/magicus?
Anyway, here is an alternative recording with a short "i" and an accent on the third to last syllable (accordingly): http://linguax.com/energicus_godmy.mp3
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
If the -icus of energicus is modelled on the Greek adjectival termination ικός (and clearly it is), then the only sensible choice is for the i to be short. Gildersleeve, among others, clearly indicates that this is the case:Godmy wrote: You are right, on the other hand: the derivation of the magicus adjective from magīa was done here already in Greek in μαγικός . With energīcus/energicus we derive it purely in a Latin environment (though you could theoretically think of the derivation here happening through Greek too, analogically), so I wouldn't rule out the ī completely... (it depends if you think of the Latin suffix just as about "-icus" or "-cus")
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Re: How to pronounce "energicus"?
Alright. I have posted a modified recording already. The OP can choose, listen and read the arguments in the same time...
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