spemus in te

[Junya]

Hi.

About a Christian expression spemus in te,
I'm unclear about in.

In English expression "we hope in you", in sounds like it is locatival, of course tropically.

But looking in L&S, in + abl doesn't seem to have such usage as would be attached to a verb like speo.
and in speo page, I can't find a sample sentence with in + abl..

Rather, this in te may be in + acc., in which in means (feelings) toward, as amor in te.

What do you think about my thought ?

But if this hope in you is a translation from Greek, I would have to check the Greek dictionary or re-post this question to the Greek forum.

[adrianus]

Rectè dicis, accusativo casui servit in praepositio in illo dicto. Vide "credere in" ("credere in Deum", L&S) cum accusativo.

[bedwere]

Tamen invenitur saltem in latinitate ecclesiastica etiam spero cum ablativo, sicut in psalmo XLII ex psalterio Gallicano, qui in missa Romana antiqua recitatur dum ad altare sacerdos ingreditur:

Spera in Deo, quóniam adhuc confitébor illi: salutáre vultus mei, et Deus meus.

[adrianus]

Id mihi curae est quare duae versiones sint?

Quare tristis es, anima mea, et quare conturbas me? Spera in Deo, quoniam adhuc confitebor illi: salutare vultus mei, et Deus meus.

Quare deprimeris, anima mea, et tumultuaris in me? Spera in Deum: quia rursus celebrabo eum, salutem vultus mei et Deum meum.

[bedwere]

Id mihi curae est quare duae versiones sint?

Quare tristis es, anima mea, et quare conturbas me? Spera in Deo, quoniam adhuc confitebor illi: salutare vultus mei, et Deus meus.

Quare deprimeris, anima mea, et tumultuaris in me? Spera in Deum: quia rursus celebrabo eum, salutem vultus mei et Deum meum.

Ave, Adriane. Sunt saltem sex versiones Latinae libri psalmorum. Versio autem altera quam ostendisti ex Psalterio piano provenit. Quae versio, ab Augustino cardinale Bea confecta, papa Pio XII regnante, cum elegans sit, multis tum displicet. Ardue enim cantu Gregoriano psalmi ex versione piana canuntur.

[Junya]

Thank you Adrianus, Bedwere.

But I feel still vague about in.
In spera in Deum, in + acc. would be "(feelings) toward", being proper as Latin.
In spera in Deo, is in + abl. a copy of Greek (or Hebrew) expression ?

[Junya]

About a Christian expression spemus in te,
I'm unclear about in.

In English expression "we hope in you", in sounds like it is locatival, of course tropically.

But looking in L&S, in + abl doesn't seem to have such usage as would be attached to a verb like speo.
and in speo page, I can't find a sample sentence with in + abl..

Rather, this in te may be in + acc., in which in means (feelings) toward, as amor in te.

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But I feel still vague about in.
In spera in Deum, in + acc. would be "(feelings) toward", being proper as Latin.
In spera in Deo, is in + abl. a copy of Greek (or Hebrew) expression ?

I found by myself speravit anima mea in Domino (psalm 129), again spere in + abl..
Again I ask you if think this form is proper Latin.
I want to be sure if this is proper Latin or not.