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S.P.Q.R.
Vi en la peli " S.P.Q.R. " Que significa?
I saw in the movie when Caesar goes anywhere, there 's somethin' and S.P.Q.R. on it. What does it represent for?
I saw in the movie when Caesar goes anywhere, there 's somethin' and S.P.Q.R. on it. What does it represent for?
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SPQR I believe is The Senate and People of Rome
I hope I get this right...
Senatus Populusque Romae
...if not, I need more practice.
Sort of like United States of America USA or The Peoples Republic of China PRC
I hope I get this right...
Senatus Populusque Romae
...if not, I need more practice.
Sort of like United States of America USA or The Peoples Republic of China PRC
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Re: spqr
Almost correct, Kip: it's The Roman Senate and People:Kip wrote:SPQR I believe is The Senate and People of Rome
I hope I get this right...
Senatus Populusque Romae
...if not, I need more practice.
Sort of like United States of America USA or The Peoples Republic of China PRC
Senatus Populusque Romanus
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Re: spqr
Interesting point. As both senatus as well as populus are masculine, and as word order is no guarantee, we cannot really tell for sure which word Romanus does indeed modify. It can modify senatus, or populus, or, as I tried to suggest: both. I don't think Latin usage would necessarily require Romani in the plural to do this, albeit it is, of course, grammatically more correct.aemilius wrote:I think that more correct will be:amans wrote:
Almost correct, Kip: it's The Roman Senate and People:
Senatus Populusque Romanus
The Senate and the Roman people.
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Re: spqr
My understanding is that attributive adjectives (like this case) generally (and correctly) agree in number with the nearest noun, while predicative adjectives would be plural when modifying more than one noun.amans wrote:I don't think Latin usage would necessarily require Romani in the plural to do this, albeit it is, of course, grammatically more correct.
I think that "The Roman (Senate and People)" and "The Senate and the Roman People" are identical in latin, and thus technically ambiguous. We have the same problem in English, as illustrated here in the forum recently:
Bert wrote:Why is Paul wonderful but not William.Carola wrote:with the help of the wonderful Paul and William
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Re: spqr
Not that an adjective can't agree with the nearest noun anyways, but in this case the phrase "senatus populusque" is viewed as a joint entity. Hence a verb is also singular when this phrase is the subject.edonnelly wrote:My understanding is that attributive adjectives (like this case) generally (and correctly) agree in number with the nearest noun, while predicative adjectives would be plural when modifying more than one noun.amans wrote:I don't think Latin usage would necessarily require Romani in the plural to do this, albeit it is, of course, grammatically more correct.
I think that "The Roman (Senate and People)" and "The Senate and the Roman People" are identical in latin, and thus technically ambiguous. We have the same problem in English, as illustrated here in the forum recently:
Bert wrote:Why is Paul wonderful but not William.Carola wrote:with the help of the wonderful Paul and William
flebile nescio quid queritur lyra, flebile lingua murmurat exanimis, respondent flebile ripae
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Hi all,
I don’t know where but I did read somewhere that SPQR stood for Senatus Populus Quiritis Romanus and not for Populusque.
Andrus
P.S- Went to goole and find this link:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/G ... tions.html
Where it can be seen SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS without the spacing between the words
Probably yes, since his official reason to march against Rome was to restore the People Tribunes rights. As Marco Anthony and other Tribune were expelled from senate when tried to veto the proclamation of Caesar as public enemy.Cadoro wrote: Was Julius Caesar presenting that standard when he marched against the Roman Senate? Interesting Irony.
True and none Roman was better at it then Caesar.Thucydides wrote: ...But the Romans were good at propaganda.
I don’t know where but I did read somewhere that SPQR stood for Senatus Populus Quiritis Romanus and not for Populusque.
Andrus
P.S- Went to goole and find this link:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/G ... tions.html
Where it can be seen SENATVS POPVLVSQVE ROMANVS without the spacing between the words