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Dare macron?

Postby Deccius » Wed May 11, 2005 11:50 pm

Salvete omnes,

Why doesn't the verb dare - to give not have a macron over the "a"? Does it have something to do with the word order? Does this occur in other conjugations as well?

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Postby Parthenophilus » Thu May 12, 2005 12:28 am

Because the a is short in all parts except 2nd pers. sing. das. It's just an irregularity you have to get used to.
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Postby benissimus » Thu May 12, 2005 12:58 am

Parthenophilus is correct. Another place where the A is long is in the pres sing 2nd pers imperative, da, but it is still short in the plurall date. The O in do is of course long, and the A in the present participle nom sing dans is long as in regular verbs.

This slight irregularity of the thematic vowel does not happen in any otherwise regular verbs that I can think of. Monosyllabic verb and noun stems (in this case DA-) tend to create some oddities when combined with endings.
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Postby whiteoctave » Thu May 12, 2005 7:00 am

do, dare and other such 'root presents' must be described as athematic, this particular verb being built upon *d(e)H3-. a long a can also be seen in the archaic 2nd pl. subj. duas (or long i in duis), and would have been heard in participial dans, the n often having a reduced nasal pronunciation; a long e is of course seen in des, demus and detis.

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