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Postby Anthony Appleyard » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:00 pm

Google's automatic translater now has a to and from Latin option, but my first test of it found is basically faulty: I entered:-

The duck swallowed the frog.

and it produced:-

Anas devoravit ranae.

(not 'ranam')

In Latin to English:-

nemo me impune lacessit. (Scotland's royal motto)

became

there is no impunity.

and not the correct "No one can harm me unpunished." or similar.
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby adrianus » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:50 pm

Google Translate admits // Fatetur Google Interpres

Ego non a BENE cum transferendis Latine in Latin et vix melius cum transferendis Anglorum in Latine.

I do not, well, when translating from Latin into English, and even better* when translating English into Latin.


*It's trying to say "hardly better".
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Sinister Petrus » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:36 pm

I think Google translate relies on parallel texts to help build its algorithms. While there are lots of Latin/English parallel texts out there, I suspect a lot of them aren't going to be very useful. Sure, the Aeneid is online. Sure, Dryden's translation is online too. I bet they're even closely associated. But would they be close enough to each other to give a starting point?

Once you've got the starting point, is there enough supporting data to refine the process?

So don't get too down on what they're doing. Yet.
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Sceptra Tenens » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:42 pm

Google Translate is dubious even with modern languages. It can come close, but there are almost always mistakes.
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Sinister Petrus » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:57 am

Sceptra Tenens wrote:Google Translate is dubious even with modern languages. It can come close, but there are almost always mistakes.


But vastly superior to the results with Latin.
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Anthony Appleyard » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:32 pm

I just now tried Google's autotranslater in English to Latin mode, and I got:-
The duck swallowed the frog. :: Anas absorbuit rana.
The duck digested the frog. :: Anas digeri rana.
The cat caught the mouse. :: Cattus prendiderunt muris.
The fat cat sat on the mat. :: Adipem cattus sedebat in lecto.
The night was dark and stormy, and the captain said to the mate: "Tell us a tale". ::
Nox intempesta tenebris, et praefecto lambere ait: "Indica fabula".

A loose or stray English "the" is translated as "in" :: correct for Nahuatl, but not for Latin!
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Anthony Appleyard » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:54 am

I tried Google's autotranslater in Latin to English mode on the Pope's resignation speech, and it got the translation mostly correct.

Today I tried it on the "lorem ipsum" mock-Latin text

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum

and it produced this translation:-

"This page is available, however, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it. Or desires to obtain pain in the bullet train to find fault with in the pleasure of pain that produces no resultant good to flee. These cases are perfectly account of the system, the fault of those who are in the original text: this is to sink."
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Re: Autotranslaters

Postby Gregarius » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:26 pm

Google translate currently translates "quid pro quo" to English as "Grindhouse" ??

Last year, it translated this same phrase as 'what happens in Vegas'. Which may have been more accurate...
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