Vergilii Aeneis

[marcofurio]

In alio foro idem posui nec responsum ullum obtinui. Gratias ago cuicumque qui me iuvet!

Liber IV, v 191
(fama canebat) 'Venisse Aenean Troiano sanguine cretum,
cui se pulchra viro dignetur iungere Dido!...'

Nam "ut" substituere posit in locum praenominis "cui"?:
'Venisse Aenean ut se pulchra viro dignetur iungere Dido'

Vel simpliciter 'Venisse Aenean et cum eo Dido concubuisset'

Quaestio mea surgit quia Orberg dixit (Cap XL,66): (fama) ... pariter vera ac falsa narrabat: 'Aenean Troia venisse, cum quo viro pulchra Dido concubuisset...'.

Salvete!

[adrianus]

'Venisse Aenean et cum eo Didonem concubuisse' non 'Venisse Aenean ut se pulchra viro dignetur iungere Dido' quod non finalis sed dependens haec clausula, "cui se pulchra viro dignetur iungere Dido", nisi fallor (A&G §585b).

[Scribo]

Amice, quid est "Fama" en Anglice?

[MatthaeusLatinus]

uhhh ... fame?

[adrianus]

anglicè "rumor, opinion, news, fame, reputation" et cetera est fama -ae

fāma , ae, f. for, fa-ri, = φήμη,
I. the talk of the multitude, like rumor, either as relating or as judging (v. rumor; cf. also: nomen, gloria, laudatio; clamor, plausus; honos, dignitas, honestas, laus, etc.).
I. That which people say or tell, the common talk, a report, rumor, saying, tradition (freq. and class.; plur. very rare); absol., or with a statement of the subject-matter annexed with de, or as an object-clause; rarely with gen...
II. The voice or judgment of the many, public opinion; more freq. objectively, the fame, character, reputation which a man has, either in general or in particular, as a good or bad reputation, etc. (very freq. and class.).

[Scribo]

illud scivi! I thought it had some specific technical meaning since it was in brackets....Ah