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ablativus 'causa' + genitivus

Postby pmda » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:23 pm

Orberg in LLPSI Cap XXVI scripsit hanc sententiae: 'Non solum delectandi causa [ablativus], verum etiam monendi causa [ablativus] narratur fabula de filio Daedali...' Cur duo verba 'causa' ablativi sunt?
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Re: ablativus 'causa' + genitivus

Postby woodwose » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:58 pm

Hi pmda,

causa is ablative, it's true. I'm not sure why that's the case (pun!), but I do know this construction works basically like a preposition. Since, however, causa comes after the word it governs, you might call it a postposition, though I don't know if that's actually a grammar category.

Also, as you've already determined, causa takes a word in the genitive case. This is obviously unusual for a preposition. Maybe it's better just to think of this construction as an idiom and leave it at that?

One way to translate it is "For the sake of..." + (whatever genitive word comes before it).

Good luck!
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Re: ablativus 'causa' + genitivus

Postby lauragibbs » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:34 pm

confer quoque hunc modum dicendi: gratiā - ars gratiā artis, "art for art's sake"
et similiter - exempli gratiā, e.g.
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Re: ablativus 'causa' + genitivus

Postby pmda » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:55 pm

gratias vobis ago.
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