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Postby Einhard » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:59 pm

Quick question: Can "ferre" be used in the sense of "bearing witness to"?
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Re: ferre

Postby ptolemyauletes » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:38 pm

I would say no, but it depends on the context. The Romans have a deponent verb, testor, which does what you want. ferre means literally to carry, and often to relate, but it seems to me that 'to bear witness' is too idiomatic to be able to use ferre.
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Re: ferre

Postby adrianus » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:23 pm

L&S on 'fero' wrote:6. With the access, notion of publicity, to make public, to disclose, show, exhibit...
b. Prae se ferre, to show, manifest, to let be seen, to declare...
7. Of speech, to report, relate, make known, assert, celebrate...
b. Ferunt, fertur, feruntur, etc., they relate, tell, say; it is said, it appears, etc....
c. To give out, to pass off a person or thing by any name or for any thing; and, in the pass., to pass for any thing, to pass current...set himself up for, boast,...boasting of,...
b. Legem (privilegium, rogationem) ad populum, or absol., to bring forward or move a proposition, to propose a law, etc....
c. Judicem, said of the plaintiff, to offer or propose to the defendant as judge: quem ego si ferrem judicem, refugere non deberet, Cic. Rosc. Com. 15, 45 ; id. de Or. 2, 70, 285.--Hence, judicem alicui, in gen., to propose a judge to, i. e. to bring a suit against, to sue a person: se iterum ac saepius judicem illi ferre, Liv. 3, 57, 5 ; 3, 24, 5; 8, 33, 8.--

I think the English "to bear on/out" isn't too far from the sense you're seeking, although not identical.
Sensus anglicè "to bear on/out" non longè ab eo quem quaeris, ut opinor, etsi non ille ipse.
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