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Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:17 pm

Help me out! Does this look right?

ἡ Πρωϊνή Λειτουργία
Morning Devotion

Ὁ Θεός Πατήρ ἡμῶν, δωρεὰ τῆς χάριτος σοῦ θεοῦ πᾶσα ἡμέρα
God, our Father, each day is a gift of your grace.
καινοί οἱ ἔλεοι σοῦ καθʼ ἡμέραν
Your mercies are new every morning.
ὁδήγησον τὸ περιπατεῖν ἡμῶν ἐν τῷ φωτί τοῦ Λογοῦ σοῦ.
Guide our steps by the light of your Word.
ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ κακίας καὶ πονηρίας
Shield us from harm and keep us from evil.
κρεῖττον γάρ ἐστιν ἀγάπη σοῦ ἤ ζωή.
Better than life is your love.
δίδου ἡμῖν χαρᾶν ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ ἡμῶν καὶ ἔπαινον ἐν τῷ στόματι ἡμῶν.

εγω,
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:31 pm

A couple of notes:

This is the beginning part of "Morning Devotion" taken from: Christian Worship: A Lutheran Hymnal pg. 152.

Σαῦλος wrote:καινοί οἱ ἔλεοι σοῦ καθʼ ἡμέραν

Or… κατὰ τὸ πρωὶ Or... το πρωι πρωι (LXX Ex 16:21) ????

Σαῦλος wrote:ὁδήγησον τὸ περιπατεῖν ἡμῶν ἐν τῷ φωτί τοῦ Λογοῦ σοῦ.

Or… ὑπο φωτός in order to distinguish it from the sense of “in the dark.”

Σαῦλος wrote:ῥῦσαι

According to Liddell, “generally, to shield, guard, protect, of guardian gods, chiefs, etc.”

Σαῦλος wrote:ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ

Or… εστη θυρεον ημων απο...

Σαῦλος wrote:ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ κακίας

LN – κακία b, ας f: a state involving difficult and distressing circumstances

Σαῦλος wrote:ὁδήγησον τὸ περιπατεῖν ἡμῶν ἐν τῷ φωτί τοῦ Λογοῦ σοῦ.

The words for "steps" seemed so obscure. Maybe "το περιπατειν̈́" is just as obscure, in form.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Markos » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:33 pm

Does this look right?


πάνυ γε, ὦ ἄριστε Σαῦλε! πάντα γὰρ καλῶς ἔγραψας.
I am writing in Ancient Greek not because I know Greek well, but because I hope that it will improve my fluency in reading. I got the idea for this from Adrianus over on the Latin forum here at Textkit.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:45 am

I caught one mistake...
δωρεὰ τῆς χάριτος σοῦ θεοῦ
gift of your grace
Cut θεου.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:20 pm

Let's make a deal. You help me with this prayer, and I'll pray for you to be helped. :D

Εὐχαριστῶ σοι, Πάτερ μου ὁ ἐποὐράνιος, διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, υἱοῦ ἀγαπητοῦ σου,
I thank you, my heavenly Father, through Jesus Christ, your dear Son,

ὅτι ταύτῃ τῇ νυκτὶ με πεφύλαχας :?: ἀπὸ παντῶν τῶν κακῶν καὶ κινδύνων.
that you have kept me this night from all harm and danger.

τήρει με καὶ ταύτῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ ἀπὸ ἁμαρτίας και παντός πονηροῦ :?:
Keep me this day also from sin and every evil,

ὥστε εὐάρεστον σοι εἴναι το παν ἔργων
:?: μου καὶ τὸν βίον μου.
that all my doings and life may please you.

ἐν χέρσιν σου τιθημι τὸ σῶμα μου και τὴν ψυχήν μου καὶ πάντα.
Into your hands I commend my body and soul and all things.

ἔστω μετʼ ἐμοῦ ὁ :?: ἅγιος ἄγγελος σου
Let your holy angel be with me,

ἵνα μη ἐχῃ ἐξουσίαν κατʼ ἐμοῦ ὁ πονηρός ἐχθρος.
that the wicked foe may have no power over me. Amen.

ἡ πρωϊνή προσευχὴ τοῦ Μαρτινοῦ Λυττήρου.
MORNING PRAYER by Martin Luther
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Markos » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:29 pm

χαίροις σύ, ὦ ἄριστε Σαῦλε!

Let's make a deal. You help me with this prayer, and I'll pray for you to be helped.


πάνυ γε!

...τοῦ Μαρτινοῦ Λυττήρου.


γράφοιμι δὴ τὸ...τοῦ Μαρτίνου Λύθηρος.

καλῶς. νῦν δέ σε δεῖ προσεύχεσθαι ἵνα μοι βοηθῇ ὁ Θεός! :mrgreen:
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby persequor » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:37 pm

Ευγε, ευγε, ω Σαυλε! Συ δε ισχυεις προγεγραμμενον πεμπειν εν Word, Open Office, η PDF?

Εχω χαριν σοι,
Δεβένιος
Carpe diem!--¡Aprovecha el día presente!--Seize the day!
---Poēta Rōmānus Horātius, Carmina (Odes), a.C. XXIII/DCCXXXI A.U.C.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby persequor » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:39 pm

Περσεκυωρ ειμι εν τη σελιδα τη ταυτην, και ονομα μοι Δεβἐνιος εν Β-Γρεεκ. :oops:
Carpe diem!--¡Aprovecha el día presente!--Seize the day!
---Poēta Rōmānus Horātius, Carmina (Odes), a.C. XXIII/DCCXXXI A.U.C.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:07 am

Περσεκυωρ Δεβενιε,

συγγνωμην εχε. ου καταλαμβανω τελεως. θελεις με πεμψαι σοι τί;

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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby persequor » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:02 pm

χαιρω λαμβανειν παντα οτι θελεις πεμπειν, ω φιλε.
Carpe diem!--¡Aprovecha el día presente!--Seize the day!
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Markos » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:11 pm

χαίρετε, φίλοι!

οὐκ μὲν οἶδα τί θέλετε πέμπειν ἀλλήλοις. ἐγὼ δὲ πέμπω ὑμῖν ἀσπασμὸν ἐν τοῦ Κυρίου.

ὅ τι ὑμεῖς προσεὐχεσθε, γένοιτο ἐκ Θεοῦ!

ἔρρωσθε!
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Help "εγω _?_ εμε"

Postby Σαῦλος » Wed May 22, 2013 1:33 pm

I found Luther’s Morning Prayer translated into Greek, from 1577 (Selnecker). I think this is Koine Greek (any opinions on that????). It seems that they were using Greek as an academic language. I have another edition that is in German, Latin, Greek, and HEBREW!

Here's my problem. I decyphered the running miniscule, except for one word. It’s seen in the image here. The phrase is also underlined in my transcription below.
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Εὐχαριστῶ σοι ὦ Θεός πάτερ οὐράνιὲ, διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῦ υἱοῦ σου ἀγαπητοῦ, ὅτι ἐμὲ ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ νυκτί ἐκ πάντων κινδύνων, συμφορῶν καὶ κακῶν διασώζων διεφύλαξας. Δέομαί σου, ἵνα καὶ σήμερον ἀπὸ τῶν ἀμαρτιῶν, καὶ τῶν ἄλλων κακῶν διατηρῆς με, καὶ πᾶσαι αἱ πράξεις μου, καὶ ὅλος ὁ βίος μου εὐάρεστός σοι γίνηται. ἐγῶ ?? ἐμὲ, καὶ τὸ σῶμά μου, καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν, καὶ τὰ πάντα ἐμοῦ εἰς τὰς χεῖράς σου παρατίθημι. ἄγγελός σου ὁ ἅγιος μετ̀ ἐμοῦ ἔστω, ὥστε ὁ πονηρὸς ἐχθρὸς ἐν ἐμοὶ οὐκ ἔχειν οὐδέν· ἀμήν.
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Pros » Wed May 22, 2013 11:21 pm

I believe after reading an online English translation of this prayer that the word is simply "γὰρ".
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Re: Morning Devotion

Postby Σαῦλος » Thu May 23, 2013 6:54 am

A friend who studied minuscule writing agrees. He said it's a standard way of writing γαρ. Another friend looked at the Hebrew, Latin, and German parallel translations in a similar text, and found ki, quia, and denn. So, γαρ it must be. Thanks.
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