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Persica - hexameter

Postby Kasper » Wed May 11, 2005 1:30 am

In ego rus movurus meque edam tot persica multa
In ego rus movurus meque edam tot persica multa
Persica mi decies centenaque millia large
Persica mi decies centenaque millia large


:lol:
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby whiteoctave » Wed May 11, 2005 10:02 pm

i enjoyed the sense of your couplet/quatrain, K., as far as my tentative translation takes me. as for metre, the first syllable of lines 1 and 2 scans short where a long is need. if movurus (?) is for moturus, your hexameter line becomes a heptameter; even if you scanned the word as an anapaest (uu-) you would have one too many syllables. the last two lines scan fine.

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Postby Kasper » Wed May 11, 2005 10:59 pm

Ugh - the first syllable is mere stupidity. I mixed it around so many times I missed to most basic thing!!

Moturus (of course not movurus!! Shame on me!) I checked in perseus which indicated the first 2 syllables scan short. I don't see how I have too many syllables. "-que" is elided isn't it?
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby whiteoctave » Thu May 12, 2005 8:57 am

thanks for the reply, K. i can only imagine your checking of moueo was simply of the first two vowels of the 1st.sg.act.ind., i.e. moueo (which does indeed scan uu-). moturus exhibits a lengthened o (< supine motum w/ long o) and the suffix -urus, which has a long u. if you want an example of its being used in dactylic hexameter, cf. Luc.10.316: quis te tam flentem / moturum totas uiolenti gurgitis iras, / Nile, putet? where moturum is of course a molossus (---). with the elision of que, your first two lines scans thus (/ marks feet and | word division):

u|uu / -|- / --|/ -|-/ -|-|/ -uu|/ -u

which is a rather spondaic version of a dactylic heptameter (something I have not yet come to know).
state what you want the english to be and then possible alterations can be considered, si placet.

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Postby Kasper » Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 am

whiteoctave wrote:state what you want the english to be and then possible alterations can be considered, si placet.

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Thanks for all your comments again, W. The english is:

I'm moving to the country, gonna eat a lot of peaches
I'm moving to the country, gonna eat a lot of peaches
Millions of peaches, peaches for me
Millions of peaches, peaches for free
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby Sebastian Swift » Fri May 13, 2005 12:58 am

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ha.

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Postby Kasper » Fri May 13, 2005 2:18 am

“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby whiteoctave » Fri May 13, 2005 7:53 am

môt- signifies a long syllable, -u- is unmarked for length because it is always long in -urus. seriously, moturus scans --u, for the Presidents or otherwise.

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Postby Kasper » Mon May 23, 2005 5:24 am

Okay, after the above defeat at the hands of WhiteOctave, let me try again:

Rure habitaturus cenabo persica multa,
persica mi decies centenaque millia, large.

I believe it scans:

- u u | - - | - - | - - | - u u | - u |
- u u | - u u | - u u | - u u | - u u | - - |


Too many spondees perhaps in the first line, but well, ita est.
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“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby Lucus Eques » Mon May 23, 2005 6:11 am

Sebastian Swift wrote:Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ha.

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Postby whiteoctave » Mon May 23, 2005 6:51 am

with the two most common strings of laughter (two and three syllables) the final syllalbe terminates with -ae, thus hahae and hahahae.

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