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elegeion

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:46 pm
by annis
ἤδη ἑταῖρον ἔχεις ἀλλ’ ἥδυ γελᾷς παρά θ’ ἧσαι·   νῦν δὲ δίδως χάριτας τὰς ἐμὲ δεῖ μὴ ἔχειν;

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:23 pm
by whiteoctave
delightful as ever, W. what is your policy on Hermann's bridge? i recently wrote a little 6 line Grk. elegiac on the (prestated) topic of 'junk food'. iambics, however, are on my mind: this morning i had a University exam in which 15 or so lines of english had to be turned into them.

~D

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:38 pm
by annis
whiteoctave wrote: what is your policy on Hermann's bridge?
Well, hell. I'll have to fix that.
i recently wrote a little 6 line Grk. elegiac on the (prestated) topic of 'junk food'.
And how does twinkie scan? Jaffa cake?

Re: elegeion

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:01 am
by annis
How about:

ἤδη ἑταῖρον ἔχεις ἀλλ’ ἡδυλογεῖς παρά θ’ ἧσαι·   νῦν δὲ δίδως χάριτας τὰς ἐμὲ δεῖ μὴ ἔχειν;

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:19 am
by Kasper
What's Hermann's bridge anyway :?:

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:46 am
by annis
Kasper wrote:What's Hermann's bridge anyway :?:
A bridge is a place in the line where a word break is forbidden. Hermann's bridge says I cannot have a break in the fourth foot like so: - u | u. In my case, ἥδυ | γελᾷς breaks the rule.

The rule isn't absolute, but for a Greek poet to break it is quite rare.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:26 am
by Kasper
Thanks Wll! (I'll have to try to translate your poem soon!)