Plato and Timeless

[Dani]

To Plato, can physical things be timeless? It says:

"For Plato, forms, such as beauty, are more real than any objects that imitate them. Though the forms are timeless and unchanging, physical things are in a constant change of existence. Where forms are unqualified perfection, physical things are qualified and conditioned.[13]"

Would that mean a physical thing like fire couldn't be timeless?

[mwh]

For Plato, fire as an idea or “form” would be timeless (whatever might be meant by that), but any actual fire not, for it may be extinguished and/or maybe change into something else. (What is fire, anyway?)