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Word Frequency in Homer

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Word Frequency in Homer

Postby Lex » Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:00 pm

My conversation with Junya has given me an idea for my own use. Is there any source out there with a list of the most commonly used words in Homer, most commonly used words first? I know that the Chicago Homer has word counts, but I'm looking for already compiled statistics.
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby Lex » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:05 am

modus.irrealis wrote:You might find the book at http://www.archive.org/details/homericv ... 00owenrich useful.


Exactly the kind of thing I was looking for! Thank you.
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby edonnelly » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:00 pm

You can also make your own customized word frequency lists using the Perseus Vocabulary Tool:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/vocab?lang=greek

It's kind of neat because you can select which books to include, which frequency thresholds to use for including vs. excluding words and you can choose how they are sorted. Also, of course, it's nice because the output is text (allows you to copy, paste, resort, etc.), not a scanned pdf file. Works not just for Homer, but any Greek texts available on Perseus. There is also a similar tool for Latin.
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby nov.ialiste » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:29 am

modus.irrealis wrote:You might find the book at http://www.archive.org/details/homericv ... 00owenrich useful.

An updated (1969) version of this book is available: Homeric Vocabularies (by Owen and Goodspeed).

It is the same book with one major improvement: the English translations of the Greek words are now alongside each Greek word. In the original book the English words are listed separately and cross-referenced to the Greek.

I bought a copy from Amazon(UK). It's a smallish and not very expensive book.
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby Lex » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:20 am

edonnelly wrote:You can also make your own customized word frequency lists using the Perseus Vocabulary Tool


Sweet. Now that I know there are 1439 unique words in book 1 of the Iliad alone, it gives me that much more motivation to use this tool.
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby Scribo » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:42 pm

Recently started using this book, but I've started thinking, wouldn't it be better to list verbs with all their principle parts?
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby gfross » Sat May 21, 2011 8:41 am

modus.irrealis wrote:You might find the book at http://www.archive.org/details/homericv ... 00owenrich useful.


Thank you so much for this reference! I was wondering which of these two verbs, which translate the Latin sūmere, was used more often: λαμβάνω or αἱρέω. And I got my answer -- fast! Nice. :)
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Re: Word Frequency in Homer

Postby gfross » Sat May 21, 2011 8:42 am

edonnelly wrote:You can also make your own customized word frequency lists using the Perseus Vocabulary Tool:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/vocab?lang=greek

It's kind of neat because you can select which books to include, which frequency thresholds to use for including vs. excluding words and you can choose how they are sorted. Also, of course, it's nice because the output is text (allows you to copy, paste, resort, etc.), not a scanned pdf file. Works not just for Homer, but any Greek texts available on Perseus. There is also a similar tool for Latin.


And thank YOU for this reference, too! A very handy tool to have!
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