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Exqistos in Iliad 1:176

Postby Bert » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:01 pm

[face=SPIonic]e)/xqistoj de/ moi/ e)ssi....[/face]
You are the most hateful to me.

Does this mean that Agamemnon hates Achilles most of all, or that Agamemnon feels that Achilles hates him most of all?
Both instances are probably true, but this line likely would mean one or the other.
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Re: Exqistos in Iliad 1:176

Postby annis » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:52 pm

Bert wrote:[face=SPIonic]e)/xqistoj de/ moi/ e)ssi....[/face]
You are the most hateful to me.

Does this mean that Agamemnon hates Achilles most of all, or that Agamemnon feels that Achilles hates him most of all?


Hmm. The next line hints strongly at the second meaning.

And so does L&S, [face=spionic]e)xqro/n moi/ e)stin[/face] c.inf. it is hateful to me to .... Secondary meaning "hostile" with dative also hints at this.

But the fun thing about Greek is that sometimes words can flip-flop orientation (from our perspective) in surprising ways. The standard words for blind can also mean hidden, and deaf merely unheard, tasteless or untasted, etc.
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