Lex wrote:I can tell you right now, that not all the kids find the plot engaging and love it. Some of them loathe it. You just don't give a flying ****, because you're too busy teaching what you like.
Wow. Thanks for telling me how my students feel. I will take you into consideration when I choose my books next year.
I think that Shakespeare's importance is out of my hands. History has settled this question, and so it is a moot point, regardless of my feelings towards him.
And you are right that, ultimately, I do not care if some of the kids loathe Shakespeare. It is not up to them. It is up to the adults in the room. I loathed taking a bath when I was younger. So what. I am forming their tastes, not catering to them.
Moreover, these kids loathe EVERYTHING, so why not torture them with something good.
Finally, the last school I taught at, a fairly decent private Catholic school, used Julius Caesar in the 8th grade remedial course. By using Shakespeare, I was going with what I saw work firsthand. And I figured, if 8th graders can do Julius Caesar, they can do Macbeth.
If you noticed, when I complained about my classes, the only problem I had with Shakespeare was from a parent. She was upset for religious reasons. These are probably the same reasons her children cannot read Harry Potter (but they can watch CSI). Though you do not believe me, for whatever reason, the students on the whole actually liked Shakespeare. I had my 8th grade act out Much Ado About Nothing. We watched the Kenneth Branaugh movie at the end. Many said it was their favorite story this year. I still call one kid Borachio. He loves it.
Lex wrote:I'm not being silly. How do you look up a word you haven't a clue how to spell? If you can't look it up, how does a dictionary help with your spelling? This is common sense. A phonetic spelling dictionary would be in order here, not a normal one intended for finding the meanings of words, not their spellings.
So, you have never used a dictionary for spelling? Correct me if I am wrong about my students (since you apparently know them better than I do), but they usually look up words they know in part. They have to check the little stuff. I before E stuff. Unless someone just cannot even begin to spell the beginning of a word, a dictionary works just fine.
Lex wrote: paulusnb wrote:You hold a kid to what they are capable of, not what they are willing to give.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.
??? It has everything to do with what you are talking about.
Why don't you quit whining about your students, and tell your admins that your class should be split into a gifted class that you can teach, and an LD class that can be taught by somebody who can be bothered? (See? That was rude!)
You are making it difficult to be polite. I actually thought I was speaking amongst friends. My mistake. This came up because I know that Lucus has been teaching this year, and I always like to pick fellow Latin teacher's brains. We were discussing the difficulties of teaching Lingua Latina.
I have a sharp tongue and I used it anonymously to criticize unnamed students in a Forum. I do not see why you are up in arms about this. You apparently are reading some elitist pretensions into my words (I can't be bothered with slow kids). Not true. I teach in Louisiana. We are all slow here. ( It is the heat). I can't be bothered by students who do not do homework and do not turn in assignments. I do not have one student failing who has completed 5 out of 20 homework assignments. The three that are failing me have not turned in Book Reports all year. I have been teaching 5 years and have not failed a student until this year.
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him. ~Swift