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Postby Swth\r » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:15 pm

Do not forget that ancient and modern Greek letters "Γ,γ" have completely different phonetic values as linguistic sounds.

ancient greek "λέγω" was pronounced like [le/goo], but modern "λέγω" like [lέγo].

ancient Greek Γ is velar plosive, modern Greek Γ is velar fricative... :wink:

(See also the IPA table (one of all!!!):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... s_2005.png)
Dives qui sapiens est...
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Postby IreneY » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:25 am

Mainly the third declension ones since we've done away with that bothersome declension :D (simplification has its good points I must say :lol: )
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Postby aloimonon » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:50 pm

ἀλλ' ἔγωγε ἐξ αὐτῶν τούτων μᾶλλον αὐτὸν τεθαύμακα, ὅτι ἔν τε ἀλλοκότοις καὶ ἐν ἐξαισίοις πράγμασι αὐτός τε διεγένετο καὶ τὴν ἀρχὴν διεσώσατο. Dio LXXII 36.3
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Postby IreneY » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:06 am

OK, I should have added a "most" there I guess. Nothing's wrong with the third declension really. I just never liked it when I was learning ancient Greek. You see the second declension you only have to learn the dative and just remember a thing or two for the first if your native language is modern Greek. And then you hit the third.
While easy and whatnot, it's not as easy as the first two. So.... :D
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Postby aloimonon » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:26 pm

...so the third conjugation died out in the turbulent period of Late Antiquity, amid invasions and dislocations. Funnily enough, it did not die off before its nominative plural endings invaded the first conjugation.

Sorry if my remark came off as somewhat snarky, it's just that I've always looked at the third conjugation with some awe, as something just a bit exotic and therefore more interesting.
ἀλλ' ἔγωγε ἐξ αὐτῶν τούτων μᾶλλον αὐτὸν τεθαύμακα, ὅτι ἔν τε ἀλλοκότοις καὶ ἐν ἐξαισίοις πράγμασι αὐτός τε διεγένετο καὶ τὴν ἀρχὴν διεσώσατο. Dio LXXII 36.3
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Postby IreneY » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:55 pm

Umm.. what's exotic about the third conjugation? It just is sort of thing. And many things die out in languages from natural causes as it were so we can't really be sure about the cause of death can we? :)
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Postby aloimonon » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:11 pm

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ἀλλ' ἔγωγε ἐξ αὐτῶν τούτων μᾶλλον αὐτὸν τεθαύμακα, ὅτι ἔν τε ἀλλοκότοις καὶ ἐν ἐξαισίοις πράγμασι αὐτός τε διεγένετο καὶ τὴν ἀρχὴν διεσώσατο. Dio LXXII 36.3
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