Textkit Logo

Greek Accentuation

Here you can discuss all things Ancient Greek. Use this board to ask questions about grammar, discuss learning strategies, get help with a difficult passage of Greek, and more.

Greek Accentuation

Postby Illogical » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:53 am

What is the best book for learning Greek accentuation (when one is primarily studying Classical Greek)?
I have been recommended both P. Probert's 'A new short guide to the accentuation of ancient Greek', and D.A. Carson's 'Greek Accents'. Would anyone here have advice on choosing between the two, or other suggestions? I already have a good grip of grammar, vocabulary, and accentuation of verbs.

Thank you in advance.
Last edited by Illogical on Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Illogical
Textkit Neophyte
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:49 am

Re: Greek Accidence

Postby jeidsath » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:24 pm

The two books that you have been recommended are about accentuation, not accidence. Are you trying to learn verb forms (λυω λυεις λυει λυομεν λυετε λυουσι), or how words are accented? λυω -> λύω. ποταμος -> ποταμός. ἀνθρωπος -> ἄνθρωπος.
Joel Eidsath -- jeidsath@gmail.com

μὴ δ’ οὕτως ἀγαθός περ ἐὼν θεοείκελ’ Ἀχιλλεῦ
κλέπτε νόῳ, ἐπεὶ οὐ παρελεύσεαι οὐδέ με πείσεις.
User avatar
jeidsath
Administrator
 
Posts: 2277
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:42 pm
Location: Γαλεήπολις, Οὐισκόνσιν

Re: Greek Accidence

Postby Illogical » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:40 pm

My mistake, it should be 'accentuation', not 'accidence'.

Thank you for correcting that.
Illogical
Textkit Neophyte
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:49 am

Re: Greek Accentuation

Postby jeidsath » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:17 pm

The Probert book is good, although she recommends at the beginning learning the accents as you learn the vocabulary instead of trying to use the rules in her book. Probert is really a summary of the important rules from Chandler's Greek Accentuation, made into workbook format. But that is tremendously useful. While Chandler is amazing, his title "A practical introduction..." is an example of his dark humor.
Joel Eidsath -- jeidsath@gmail.com

μὴ δ’ οὕτως ἀγαθός περ ἐὼν θεοείκελ’ Ἀχιλλεῦ
κλέπτε νόῳ, ἐπεὶ οὐ παρελεύσεαι οὐδέ με πείσεις.
User avatar
jeidsath
Administrator
 
Posts: 2277
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:42 pm
Location: Γαλεήπολις, Οὐισκόνσιν

Re: Greek Accentuation

Postby mwh » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:18 am

If you’re interested in ancient Greek accentuation, and/or if you’re studying classical Greek, Probert’s is the book to use. She’s a linguist, and a professor at Oxford University.

Carson’s book is for New Testament students who like to learn rules and not to think. He’s at an evangelical divinity school in Illinois and advertises himself as “the author or editor of more than fifty books, including The God Who Is There and How Long, O Lord.” (If you’re a Monty Python fan you’ll remember the lifeboat sketch: “How long is it?” “That’s a rather personal question sir.”)
mwh
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 2609
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:34 am

Re: Greek Accentuation

Postby Barry Hofstetter » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:28 pm

N.E. Barry Hofstetter
The Jack M. Barrack Hebrew Academy
βρεκεκεκὲξ κοάξ κοάξ
Barry Hofstetter
Textkit Enthusiast
 
Posts: 440
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Re: Greek Accentuation

Postby RandyGibbons » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:13 pm

I second msw's remarks. You can really get by pretty well with the basic accentuation rules you learn in almost any introductory text, but if you're learning prose composition or just want to become a pro, Probert is the way to go. Don't just read it, do the exercises!
RandyGibbons
Textkit Member
 
Posts: 141
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:10 pm

Re: Greek Accentuation

Postby daveburt » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:37 pm

One point in favour of Carson's book is that it's legitimately available online for free: Carson, Greek Accents, 1985. If you like rules, it's set out that way, and a reliable Greek linguist says it's 'Good for the basics of lexical accentuation.'

There's also a handy one-page diagram of the possibilities here: James Tauber, 'Diagramming Greek Accent Placement'
daveburt
Textkit Neophyte
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:06 am


Return to Learning Greek

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Barry Hofstetter and 78 guests