Hello,
I am a philosophy student, trying to translate Francesco Robortello's De historica facultate disputation for my thesis. While translating, I came across words and passages in ancient greek - of which I have no knowledge whatsoever - I even have difficulties in figuring out the letters which could eventually enable me to "google" the expressions etc. That is why I registered to this forum, of which I heard only all the best, to see if someone would be kind enough to help me with this part of the translation: here is one example of the text:
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... pzivyd.png
the expressions I am interested in begin after "ex quo etiam pater..."
I will be very grateful for any kind of help whatsoever...
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Help with greek translation
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τὰ γεγενημένα things that have happened
Although I think it should have been οὐκ ἔστιν
οὐκ ἐστὶν αὐτὸς πραγμάτων ποιητὴς, ἀλλὰ μηνυτὴς this is just the original Greek of Lucian, for which Robortello gives the Latin translation non est effictor rerum sed explanator
τῶν γεγενημένων that's the genitive plural: of the things that have happened and goes with ipsam narrationem
Although I think it should have been οὐκ ἔστιν
οὐκ ἐστὶν αὐτὸς πραγμάτων ποιητὴς, ἀλλὰ μηνυτὴς this is just the original Greek of Lucian, for which Robortello gives the Latin translation non est effictor rerum sed explanator
τῶν γεγενημένων that's the genitive plural: of the things that have happened and goes with ipsam narrationem
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Thanks a lot!
I'd have another question concerning the following word (after confinguntur):
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... b5cc5c.png
is it κατάδικος (it is the only thing i could find resembling the word in question)?
If it is so I would have a couple of questions:
1) how can I be sure if the first letter is a kappa or a mu (i apologize for such basic questions but i still find it difficult sometimes just simply to decipher letters)
2) what happened to the "e" after δ ?
3) for latinists: does this make the confinguntur κατάδικος - condemned to invention/fabrication?
If the word is not κατάδικος - please help me out with deciphering what it is : )
Thanks a lot - again!
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I'd have another question concerning the following word (after confinguntur):
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... b5cc5c.png
is it κατάδικος (it is the only thing i could find resembling the word in question)?
If it is so I would have a couple of questions:
1) how can I be sure if the first letter is a kappa or a mu (i apologize for such basic questions but i still find it difficult sometimes just simply to decipher letters)
2) what happened to the "e" after δ ?
3) for latinists: does this make the confinguntur κατάδικος - condemned to invention/fabrication?
If the word is not κατάδικος - please help me out with deciphering what it is : )
Thanks a lot - again!
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No, it's not katadikos but κατὰ τὸ εἰκὸς, which means verisimiliter, in all likelihood.
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Re: Help with greek translation
Thanks! This clarifies a lot : )
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Re: Help with greek translation
Hello again. Continuing my translation of Robortello, I would really appreciate your help with the following passages:
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... uofjos.png
and
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... m0q1td.png
The Marcellinus in question is apparently a 6th century AD writer, and I have found an english translation of his Life of Thucydides online here: http://interpretationjournal.com/backis ... l_38_1.pdf
But since it seems that Robortello quotes from memory (Sunt autem ferme haec..) it really does not help me much.
I know it is a lot to ask for but if someone could help me with this translation I would be most grateful.
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http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... uofjos.png
and
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95 ... m0q1td.png
The Marcellinus in question is apparently a 6th century AD writer, and I have found an english translation of his Life of Thucydides online here: http://interpretationjournal.com/backis ... l_38_1.pdf
But since it seems that Robortello quotes from memory (Sunt autem ferme haec..) it really does not help me much.
I know it is a lot to ask for but if someone could help me with this translation I would be most grateful.
Best