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North & Hillard

Postby Bart » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:05 am

Anyone up for joining me in going through North and Hillard's Greek Prose Composition?
We could compare translations, discuss alternatives and keep eachother motivated.

I have the actual book and answer key, but the text is of course freely available on this website as PDF-file. Also, all the vocabulary of the book has been integrated into a memrise course : http://www.memrise.com/set/10037078/gre ... d-hillard/

I will probably start in 2 weeks or so, but due to a trip to France I can only fully commit myself from the second week of August.
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby ailuros » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:34 pm

Hi Bart,

I'm interested in giving it a shot. I could certainly use the practice. Dan
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby ailuros » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:17 pm

Hi Bart,

I would be interested in working through North and Hillard. I responded to your post earlier but for some reason my response did not go through. Thanks, Dan
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby Bart » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:44 pm

Hi, nice to see that you want to take up North & Hillard as well. I've made the first six exercises (both the ones marked A as B) and so far it's good stuff. It forces you to think and formulate in Greek and it's a good revison of verbs and declensions. I'm struggling terribly with the accents though, but with more practice I'm sure that will be less of a problem.

It would be great to go through N&H together. To be honest, I'm not completely sure how to do this via the internet. We could assign a certain number of exercises as 'homework' every week and discuss problems we encountered here in this thread. Alternatively we could write out our entire translations of the exercises here, but that seems rather time consuming. I'm awfully sluggish as it comes to typing Greek.

Anyway, as I wrote in my first post, I will be on holiday till the second week of August. If you're still interested we could begin when I'm back. I will take a book on Greek accents and one on Greek verbs with me, so I hope to be well prepared!
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby Olbia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:18 pm

Hello.
I am not sure whether I could commit myself to doing Greek prose as homework, but I would certainly follow a thread on the subject!

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Re: North & Hillard

Postby ailuros » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:07 pm

Hi Bart,

I may have found a local tutor who will work with me on North and Hillard, but I'm not sure if that will pan out or not. In any case, we can talk in August when you are back from your trip. I majored in classics (many, many years ago) but did very little prose composition, although I see now how helpful it probably would have been, for all the reasons you mentioned in your post. It really does force one to grapple with vocabulary and idiom, and it will quickly reveal one's morphological gaps.

I'm not sure either how best to proceed if we do go forward. My own attempts at getting my Mac to type Ancient Greek have not been fruitful to date. Anyway, we can post when you are back. Hope your trip goes well! Dan
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby ailuros » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:09 pm

Hi Elizabeth Anne,

This topic might indeed work well as a thread. Many of the early exercises are single sentences, so there wouldn't be much typing involved. Dan
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby Pros » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:54 am

Looking forward to following this thread also. I am a little ahead since I have been doing the exercises for a long time on and off but will enjoy the review. pros
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby gregf » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:37 pm

Count me in. I'll be finishing a Greek immersion program tomorrow and am looking for things to do to keep progressing, and N & H seems like a good plan. Let me know how you'd like to organize things.
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby daivid » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:14 pm

I have just started on N&H and while it is alarming how many mistakes I make, I'm not, so far, having any
trouble working out why the key says it should be different. But there's one exception.
2.6 is:
"By victory we become free."

This I render as this:
τῇ νίκῃ ελεύθερα γιγνόμεθα.

But the key has this:
τῷ νικᾶν ελεύθερα γιγνόμεθα.

Any suggestions as to why?
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby NateD26 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:07 pm

They essentially have the same meaning: the former is datival substantive,
the latter, articular infinitive.
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Re: North & Hillard

Postby daivid » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:22 am

NateD26 wrote:They essentially have the same meaning: the former is datival substantive,
the latter, articular infinitive.

I have never before encountered the articular infinitive but I see on page 1 (which I skipped) it gives an example:
τῷ λέγειν by speaking
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