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Elision and Prot' elision

Postby yadfothgildloc » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:52 am

Does Greek have Protelision similar to Latin?

Would diatribh\ e)/stiv go to diatrib\ 'stin or stay un protelided?
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Re: Elision and Prot' elision

Postby annis » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:48 pm

yadfothgildloc wrote:Does Greek have Protelision similar to Latin?


Greek does have protelision, but it's not terribly common (only epsilon suffers it) and only after certain words, like [face=spionic]mh/[/face]. (Smyth §76).

Normally you'll get crasis, which is basically contraction across word boundaries. So, for [face=spionic]to\ e)mo/n[/face], rather than *[face=spionic]to\ 'mo/n[/face] you get [face=spionic]tou)mo/n[/face]. (Smyth §62-69).

Would diatribh\ e)/stiv go to diatrib\ 'stin or stay un protelided?


This is tricky. In Epic and elegiac verse the final eta was evidently shortened, but there's no change in writing to mark this. Other kinds of poets would reorder the words to avoid hiatus. Some prose authors would as well, especially Philodemus, whose conscious avoidance of hiatus for most words makes for quite difficult reading.

Most editions of prose texts do not write elision, or do so only occasionally, though we expect that elision still happened during reading.
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Postby Skylax » Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:21 pm

I know a line from Aristophanes that reads :[face=SPIonic]pou=, pou= 'sti ; pou=, pou=, pou= 'sti ; pou=;[/face] "Where, where, where is he ? (bis)" (Birds, 1122, imitating bird's voice)
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Postby yadfothgildloc » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:50 pm

It's in the context of an iambic poem.

I'll check the Smyth reference, and thanks for the Aristophanes citation.

(Hopefully the poem will be done later today...)
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