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Homeric, Attic, Koine, what?

Postby psilord » Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:56 am

I poked all around Textkit, but I couldn't find a document explaining the difference (at least at a high level) between the Homeric, Attic, Koine greek dialects (chronology, representative bodies of work/authors in each, language features, etc.). For example, it was suggested to me that I should learn Homeric first since then Attic would be much easier, and it would be harder the other way around. I'm quite happy to do this, since Homer is what I'm wanting to read. But why? It implies that Homeric greek has a lot of strange aspects about it that Attic greek got rid of and so it is simpler to learn a small set of changes from Homeric to Attic then what would appear to be crazy modifications from Attic to Homeric.

Basically, if you asked me what dialect Plato was, I couldn't tell you. How does one find out?

Thanks.
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Postby GlottalGreekGeek » Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:11 am

Plato happens to be Attic.

I believe this website will answer your questions :

http://www.co-prosperity.org/~annis/tex ... lects.html
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Postby psilord » Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:18 am

I must say that exactly solves my problem.

Thank you!
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Postby mingshey » Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:31 am

I reckon this board needs an FAQ list. :!: :idea:

dialects, pronunciations, accents, time schedules, etc.
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Postby psilord » Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:48 am

I concur. A FAQ would be a good thing. Most of the information is already around, it just needs collating. Maybe you could start a thread on what questions should be in the FAQ?
No answers at first, just questions to be answered. Then you can collate what is already solved into one nice big repository and work on the rest of the answers.
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Postby benissimus » Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:51 am

I like this article :) (By our own Greek moderator)
Last edited by benissimus on Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Licinius » Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:31 am

Nice article Benissimus!Oi Psilord por aqui também? Espero que esteja tudo bem consigo
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Postby psilord » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:05 am

Licinius wrote:Oi Psilord por aqui também? Espero que esteja tudo bem consigo


I'm sorry, but I don't understand Esperanto.
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Postby FiliusLunae » Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:39 am

Wow, I happened to come in here because I was wondering about the same thing. Though I'm not planning to learn Greek, that article totally cleared my doubt. :-)

psilord wrote:I'm sorry, but I don't understand Esperanto.

It's Portuguese. :-)


Licinius wrote:Nice article Benissimus!Oi Psilord por aqui também? Espero que esteja tudo bem consigo

O pa, não sabia que havia portugueses aqui. Eu, porém, estou a aprender latim. De onde és? Bem, só queria-te saudar. Se quiseres falar comigo, talvez poderiamos fazê-lo no fórum aberto?? Até logo, pois.
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Postby Licinius » Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:06 am

Quid est forum aberto?
Eu também venho cá pelo latim mas adorei este artigo. Saudações para ti também
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Postby GlottalGreekGeek » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:04 pm

I have never studied Portuguese in my life, yet I understand 75% of what you're saying. :D Vivu la lingvoj romanaj ! (tio vere esti en Esperanto).

Edit : This is getting very off-topic ... um ... :(

Which dialect of Ancient Greek is your faviorite?
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Postby Dingbats » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:58 pm

Sorry if I sound like a n00b, but which is the dialect that people usually learn, like what's spoken here at Textkit? Or are there many different dialects that I read here in the threads? And if you know only one dialect, would you still understand the others?
I don't know any Greek at all, but I've been thinking of learning some day.
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Postby FiliusLunae » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:05 am

Licinius wrote:Quid est forum aberto?
Eu também venho cá pelo latim mas adorei este artigo. Saudações para ti também


Ooops... desculpa-me. Quis fazer uma tradução directo do inglês, só que nesse momento pensei que se chamava «Open Forum». E pois, chama-se «Open Board». Hehe... é o que quis dizer, para nos falarmos. E é verdade o que disse o GlottalGreekGeek, esta conversa está a ficar fora de tópico! Hehe... De qualquer maneira, seria bom que falássemos... só que não sei como.
Fica bem, e espero que falemos logo.

Sorry, guys! :)
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Postby ThomasGR » Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:00 pm

I wonder why people find it difficult to learn first Koine, and then learn the few difference of Epic Greek. My case is that I prefer the first one, since most literature is written in either Koine or Attic Greek. For the few poems in Epic or Homeric Greek, I often "transform" them into Attic and find it easily to understand, though will never write anything in it (using Homeric Greek). The real question is now, imho, which form of Greek one intends to write down on paper, and not only be restricted into understanding it.
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