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"man-counselling mind"

Postby Thucydides » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:47 am

"of the man-counselling mind"

an adjective used of Clytemnestra I believe. I'm using it in an essay to refer to the masculine women of tragedy, but I'd like to have the original greek word.

Can anyone help ?
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Postby Skylax » Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:36 pm

[face=SPIonic]boulhfo/roj[/face] ?
[face=SPIonic]dolo/mhtij[/face] "crafty of counsel, wily" in Homer, Odyssey book 11, line 421

It doesn't match your question, I'm afraid.
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Postby Skylax » Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:26 pm

Aeschylus, Agamemnon line 11 :

([face=SPIonic]w(=de ga\r kratei=[/face])
[face=SPIonic]gunaiko\j a)ndro/boulon e)lpi/zon ke/ar[/face]

"For thus commands my queen, woman in passionate heart and man in strength of purpose." (Translation by H. W. Smyth, from Perseus)
Literally "Thus dominates the man-minded (virile ideas) thinking heart [usually [face=SPIonic]kh=r[/face]] of a women."

There is also the word [face=SPIonic]a)ndro/frwn[/face], Sophocles, Fragment 943, though not assignable to a determined tragedy :
[face=SPIonic]kat' o)rfano\n ga\r oi)=kon a)ndro/frwn gunh/[/face]

"For in the bereft house there is a man-minded woman."
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Postby ThomasGR » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:06 pm

αντροπρεπης
αντρογενης
αντροκρατουμενος
ανδροφρων


I prefer androgene (ανδρογενης νους)
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Postby Thucydides » Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:19 pm

Thank you very much.
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