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Postby Helikwps » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:52 am

Question please about δεικνὺς as it's used in the following passage from Lucian's "A True Story" (book 2, sect 27)

ὁ δὲ ἔφασκεν ἀφίξεσθαι μὲν εἰς τὴν πατρίδα πολλὰ πρότερον πλανηθέντα καὶ κινδυνεύσαντα, τὸν δὲ χρόνον οὐκέτι τῆς ἐπανόδου προσθεῖναι ἠθέλησεν: ἀλλὰ δὴ καὶ δεικνὺς τὰς πλησίον νήσους—ἐφαίνοντο δὲ πέντε τὸν ἀριθμόν, ἄλλη δὲ ἕκτη πόρρωθεν — ...

The commentary lists δεικνὺς as a perfect participle of deiknumi, while Perseus says it's aorist. But I can't seem to get from verb to participle using either stem, even with vowel contraction. Am I doing it wrong or is formation of the participle just irregular, and which tense is it? Thanks very much for any help,
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Re: δεικνὺς

Postby Noeticus » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:39 am

From what I understand, this is a present participle. The 1st person sing. forms of δείκνυμι for the aorist and perfect are: ἔδειξα, δέδειχα.
Παρ' Εὐκλείδη τις ἀρξάμενος γεωμετρεῖν, ὡς τὸ πρῶτον θεώρημα ἔμαθεν, ἤρετο τὸν Εὐκλείδην - "τί δέ μοι πλέον ἔσται ταῦτα μαθόντι;" καὶ ὁ Εὐκλείδης τὸν παῖδα καλέσας "δός," ἔφη, "αὐτῷ τριώβολον, ἐπειδὴ δεῖ αὐτῷ ἐξ ὧν μανθάνει κερδαίνειν.
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Re: δεικνὺς

Postby pster » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:21 am

From Mastronarde:

Participles in -ύς, -ῦσᾰ, -ύν (μι-verb active)

masc. fem. neuter
sing. n.v. δεικνύς δεικνῦσᾰ δεικνύν
gen. δεικνύντος δεικνύσης δεικνύντος
dat. δεικνύντι δεικνύσῃ δεικνύντι
acc. δεικνύντᾰ δεικνῦσᾰν δεικνύν

dual n.a.v. δεικνύντε δεικνύσᾱ δεικνύντε
g.d. δεικνύντοιν δεικνύσαινδεικνύντοιν

pl. n.v. δεικνύντες δεικνῦσαι δεικνύντᾰ
gen. δεικνύντων δεικνῡσῶνδεικνύντων
dat. δεικνῦσῐ(ν) δεικνύσαις δεικνῦσῐ(ν)
acc. δεικνύντᾰς δεικνύσᾱς δεικνύντᾰ

From Perseus:

δεικνύς verb 2nd sg pres ind act
δεικνύς verb 2nd sg imperf ind act homeric ionic unaugmented
δεικνύς part sg pres act masc nom
δεικνύς part sg pres act masc voc
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Re: δεικνὺς

Postby Helikwps » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:27 am

Thanks much for this Noeticus and pster. Sorry I misread the Perseus listing, but having this paradigm on hand for future reference is a big help, and greatly appreciated.
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