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Chapter 32 Sententiae Antiquae

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Chapter 32 Sententiae Antiquae

Postby scave » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:44 pm

Sentence #16:
"Si vis me flere, dolendum est primum ipsi tibi."

Translation says: "If you wish to weep for me, first you should grieve for yourself."

Why "me" instead of "mihi"? Also, I thought "dolendum est" would be a passive periphrastic. Could this also be translated "he should be grieved for you first."?

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Postby Chris Weimer » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:42 am

Fleo takes the accusative. "Lament" or "bewail" are, in my opinion, better translations if you wish to preserve the construction.

The passive periphrastic plus a form of esse equates to a statement of necessity. Thus "must" is used most often, at least as I have seen.
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Postby elduce » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:19 am


The 'ipsi tibi' is Dative of Agent - right? - so maybe it means
"If you want me to cry/weep, you yourself must first suffer."
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