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Postby mohit » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:37 am

Salvete,
1.D'ooge had given many other words than main 5 declension in appendix 1. Is it necessary to memorise all of them.
2.I could not understand the difference between hic and is. How are they used? Are they both necessary?
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Re: about appendix 1

Postby Carolus Raeticus » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:18 am

Salve Mohit!

I cannot help with your first question as I am not using that book, but a brief excerpt from the superb grammar book "New Latin Grammar" by Allen & Greenough may help you with the second one about the difference between "hic" and "is":

Section 297
lit. a. "Hic" is used of what is near the speaker (in time, place, or thought). It is hence called the demonstrative of the first person. It is sometimes used of the speaker himself ; sometimes for " the latter" of two persons or things mentioned in speech or writing; [at this place Allen & Greenough list a third use which I omit because it probably would more confusing than helpful] Often it refers to that which has just been mentioned.

lit. d. "Is" is a weaker demonstrative than the others and is especially common as a personal pronoun. It does not denote any special object, but refers to one just mentioned, or to be afterwards explained by a relative. Often it is merely a correlative to the relative qui:
  • venit mihi obviam tuus puer, is mihi litteras abs te eddidit (Att. ii. 1. 1), your boy met me, he delivered to me a letter from you.
  • eum quem, one whom.
  • eum consulem qui non dubitet (Cat. iv. 24), a consul who will not hesitate.

So yes, you need both. Actually, "is" is quite common, although more often, it seems, in cases other than the nominative.

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Re: about appendix 1

Postby furrykef » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:04 pm

Is/ea/id is, to me, more like he/she/it than a demonstrative -- though it can be used as a demonstrative as well (in particular, it can modify a noun). As a demonstrative it doesn't really imply location; it could be translated as either "this" or "that" depending on the context, or maybe even "the".
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Re: about appendix 1

Postby mohit » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:12 pm

Thanks for giving suggestions. It were helpful.
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