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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἐπεὶ πρωία ἤν ἔβρεχε. ἔπειτα ὁ ἥλιος ἔλαμπε. ἐχθὲς ὁ δε τῆς θερμασίας ἄκρον ἦν εἴκοσι καὶ ἑπτὰ τήμερον μὲν ἑπτακαίδεκα. «μετάβολον έσται» εἰπὲ οἱ σοφοί.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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τὴν μὲν οὖν γὴν θερμαίνων, πᾶσαν ἡμέραν ἔλαμπε ὁ ἥλιος. πολὺν δὲ χρόνον, τὴν βροχὴν οὐκ ἑωράκαμεν. καὶ τὴν θερμασίαν μισῶν, λυποῦμαι δή.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Markos wrote:καὶ τὴν θερμασίαν μισῶν, λυποῦμαι δή.

μισῶ τήν θερμασίαν;
δία τί;
οὐ φίλεις κολυμβᾶν;
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἐπεὶ ἢν πρωία εβρεχε καὶ ἐπεὶ ἢν μεσημβρία ὁ ἥλιος ελαμπε. βέβρεκται ὥστε τὰ φυτὰ εισι ἄσμενα. ὁ ἥλιος λέλαμπε ὥστε ειμι ἄσμενος ἐγώ.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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φλέγοντος πᾶσαν ἡμέραν τοῦ ἡλίου, τεθερμασμένος εἰμι ὥστε πολλάκις ἱδροῦν σφόδρα.
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Markos wrote:καὶ τὴν θερμασίαν μισῶν, λυποῦμαι δή.

μισῶ τήν θερμασίαν;
δία τί;
οὐ φίλεις κολυμβᾶν;
ναί, φίλε Σαῦλε, ὡς μάλιστα φιλῶ κολυμβᾶν, ἀλλἀ καθ' ἡμέραν οὔ! μηδὲν ἄγαν!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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τήμερον τε ὁ ἥλιος ἔλαμπε καὶ ἔβρεχε ὥσπερ ἐχθὲς αλλὰ ψυχρότερον ἤν. τὰ φυτὰ χαίρει χωρὶς τῆς ἀμπελοῦ. ἡ ἄμπελος ἔχουσα βαθοῦς ῥίζας ζήτει τὸν ἥλιον ἀντί βροχῆς.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἄλλην θερμὴν ἡμέραν ἔπεμψε ὁ Θεὸς ἐμοί. ὑπὲρ τῆς μὲν ἡμέρας, χάριν δίδωμι, ὑπὲρ τῆς δὲ θερμασίαν οὐχί!
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τήμερον ψυχρότερός ἐστιν ἢ ἐχθές. καὶ οἱ σοφοὶ λέγουσι ὅτι ταύτης τῆς ἑσπέρας ἡ βροχὴ ἐλεύσεται. πότερον δὲ σοφῶς ἢ οὐ λέγουσι, οὐκ οἶδα. σοφοὶ δὴ γάρ εἰσιν οὐκ οἱ δοκοῦντες εἶναι σοφοί, ἀλλ' οἱ ὄντες σοφοί. μόνος δὲ ὁ Θεός ἐν ἀληθείᾳ σοφός ἐστιν κατά με μὴ ὄντα σοφόν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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πρώτως ἔβρεχε. παύσαντος βρέχειν ἤλπιζον τὸν ἤλιον λάμπειν αλλὰ νεφέλαι ἐκάλυπτε τὸν ἤλιον. επειτα πάλιν ἔβρεχε. τέλος ἔλαμψε ὁ ἤλιος αλλὰ δύων μόνος ἀσθενῶς.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἄρτι νῦν, ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ, πολὺ ὕδωρ ἐκ οὺρανοῦ πίπτει. ὕει γὰρ ὁ Θεός. βρέχεται δὲ ἡ γῆ. οὐκ οὖν δύναμαι τὸν ἥλιον ὁρᾶν. καὶ ψυχρός ἐστιν ὁ ἀέρ. χρεῖαν οὖν τοῦ ἐμοῦ εὐρίπου οὐκ ἔχω. διὰ τοῦτο, χαίρω ἔγωγε.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἐγρόμενος εἶδον διὰ θυρίδος τὸν ἤλιον λάμπειν. ἔπειτα εἶδον ὕδωρ ἐπὶ ἀραχνιῶ τινί. βέβρεκται.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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τήμερον ἔβρεχε. οὐκ ἔβρεχε ἰσχυρῶν παυόμενον ἤν. ὁρῶν διὰ θυρίδα ἐνόμιζον καλὸν εἶναι - ου εχων χρείαν ἐξιέναι.
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διὰ τῆς ὅλης ἡμέρας ἰσχυρῶς ἔβρεχε. πάντα οὖν δεδευμένα ἦν. ἐπαύριον δὲ βρέξει πάλιν κατὰ τοὺς σοφούς.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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τῆς πεμπτῆς ἡμέρας πολλάκις ἔρχομαι εις μέσον Λονδονου ὡς τήμερον. ειδον τους σοφοὺς λέγοντας ὁτι οὐ βρέξοι. επει ἐπανελθών, κατέβην εκ τῆς ἁμαξοστίας εβρεχε. μέντοι ἔδοξεν ἐμοὶ οὐ τρέχειν, τῆς βροχῆς οὐκ ἰσχυρῆς οὔσας. αλλὰ ἔπειτα τῆς βροχῆς γιγνομένης ἰσχυρῆς ἔδραμον οἴκαδε.
πάλιν ἔβλεψα ὅστις οἱ σοφοὶ λεγει. ελαθε με τους σοφοὺς λέγοντας ὁτι βρέξοι μεσονύκτιον.

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σήμερον πάλιν πολλὴ βροχὴ ἔπεσεν ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν. πλημμυρίς δὲ πάρεστιν. μὲγας οὖν κίνδυνός ἐστι τοῖς ἐν τῇ ἐμῇ γῇ. ὑμᾶς δ' αἰτῶ ὑπὲρ ἡμᾶς προσεύχομαι.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Μαρκε. ἀναγινώσκων ἅ ἔγραψας, ελύπήθην. ἡ πλημμυρίδα ἕχετε??!! καὶ ἠδη εἴχετε το πῦρ, ναι;
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Σαῦλος wrote:Μαρκε. ἀναγινώσκων ἅ ἔγραψας, ελύπήθην. ἡ πλημμυρίδα ἕχετε??!! καὶ ἠδη εἴχετε το πῦρ, ναι;
ναί, φίλε Σαῦλε. τότε μὲν ἐλύπησεν ἡμᾶς μέγα πῦρ, νῦν δὲ ἡ πλημμυρίδα. καιροὶ κακοί!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Χαῖρε, ὦ Μᾶρκε. Ἤκουσα δὲ πρωῒ περὶ τῆς γῆς σου. Ἐλπίζω μήν σέ τε καὶ τοὺς φίλους σου ὑγιαίνειν. Προσεύξομαι δὲ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν.

Ἔρρωσο.

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τήμερον ἔδει με ἱέναι τῳ τῶν βασιλέων λίθῳ. εἶδον ὁρῶν δια θυρίδος ἔδοξεν ἐμοὶ φερειν σκιάδειον. Επει εβαδιζον λίθῳ εβρεχε .
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bedwere wrote:Χαῖρε, ὦ Μᾶρκε. Ἤκουσα δὲ πρωῒ περὶ τῆς γῆς σου. Ἐλπίζω μήν σέ τε καὶ τοὺς φίλους σου ὑγιαίνειν. Προσεύξομαι δὲ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν.

Ἔρρωσο.
εὐχαριστῶ δή σοι, ὦ φίλε Βεδωήρε, ὑπὲρ τῶν σῶν εὐμενῶν λόγων. σεσῳσμένος μέν εἰμι, καὶ ὁ ἐμὸς οἶκος, διὰ τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ χάριτος. ἐμοῦ δέ φίλοι τίνες νῦν ἔχουσιν οἰκίας ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕδατος βλαπτομένας.

σήμερον, μετὰ πολλὴν βροχήν, πάλιν λάμπει ὁ ἥλιος.

daivid wrote:τήμερον ἔδει με ἱέναι τῳ τῶν βασιλέων λίθῳ.
τὸ μὲν Κιγγστον ἐν τῇ σῂ γῇ οὐκ οἶδα, τὸ δὲ Κινγγστον τοῦτο οἶδά γε.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἐγώγε οὐκ οἶδα οὐδέν Κίγγστον ἐι μη οὑτοι.

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τήμερον ἔβρεχε. οἱ σοφοὶ λέγει «χαῖρε γὰρ ἐπαύριον ἔσται κάκιστον.»

Markos wrote:
daivid wrote:τήμερον ἔδει με ἱέναι τῳ τῶν βασιλέων λίθῳ.
τὸ μὲν Κιγγστον ἐν τῇ σῂ γῇ οὐκ οἶδα, τὸ δὲ Κινγγστον τοῦτο οἶδά γε.

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τήμερον μέντοι τοῖς ἤδη ὑπὸ τῆς βροχῆς λυπουμένοις πολλὴ βροχὴ ἔρχεται. ἐπιθυμοῦμεν οὖν τοῦ τὸν ἥλιον βλέπειν. πέμψοι γε ὁ Θεὸς ἡμῖν τὴν αὐτοῦ χάριν.


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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Μᾶρκε·
χαλεπον εστιν τοίς ταύτας θλίψεις ἐχοῦσι. μη γελῶ, ουχί. ἀλλά μνημονεύω τῆς παροιμίας ἅς ἔχομεν ἐνταύθα·
“ ἔκλαυσας βροχής, ἔκλαυσας βόρβορον.”
τούτ ἐστιν· ἐβουλήθης βροχήν. ἔβρεξεν. τότε λυπεῖ περί βορβόρου.
ἄψια δε ἡ παροιμία.
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τήμερον πρωια ἤν αἴθρια, επειτα εβρεχε. εν ἄνω μὲν Βρεττανιας ανεμος ἤν μεγας, εν Λονδονι δε ουχ.
Markos wrote:ἐπιθυμοῦμεν οὖν τοῦ τὸν ἥλιον βλέπειν.

καὶ ἐπιθυμοῦμεν πάντες ὁτι υμεις εν Κολοραδᾳ τὸν ἥλιον βλέψατε
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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εὐδοκείαν φέρει ἡ αιθρία
ἀρεσκείαν φέρει ἡ εὐδία

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εὐδία

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αιθρία

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Σαῦλος wrote:... ἀλλά μνημονεύω τῆς παροιμίας ἅς ἔχομεν ἐνταύθα·
“ ἔκλαυσας βροχής, ἔκλαυσας βόρβορον.”
τούτ ἐστιν· ἐβουλήθης βροχήν. ἔβρεξεν. τότε λυπεῖ περί βορβόρου.
ἄψια δε ἡ παροιμία.
ὥς μάλιστα, φίλε Σαῦλε, πάνυ γε! τὴν δὲ παροιμίαν ταύτην ἔγωγε οἶδα.
ἔγραψεν ὁ ζάμβιαν
Walila mvula walila matope.
τούτ' ἐστιν, τὴν μὲν βροχὴν αἰτῶν, τὸν δὲ βόρβορον ἀιτῇ σὺ δή.

τὴν δὲ βροχήν ᾔτησα δή.
Markos wrote on Sept 3, 2012:
ἀβροχία νῦν ἐστιν ἐν τῇ γῇ μου. ἄβροχος γὰρ ἡ γῆ. τῆς δὲ βροχῆς ἐπιθυμῶ
νῦν δὲ μέμφομαι τῆς βροχῆς!
Shakespeare wrote:
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τήμερον μεταβολικόν ὄν, πρωτόν ὁ ἤλιος ελαμπε, επειτα εβρεχε. τέλος πάλιν ελαμπε ὁ ἤλιος τοῦ ἀνεμοῦ πνέων ἰσχύρως.
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τήμερον ἐστίν ἡ ἕκτη καί δέκατη ἡμέρα τῶν Μεταγειτνιών. ὁ ἥλιος ἐτι μάλα φλέγει ἐν τῃ γῃ μοῦ. οὐ βρέξει, ἕως Βοηδρομιών εἶναι. βούλομαι ψυχρότερον εἶναι!

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Ατρευς,
οὐκ ἑώρακα ταύτας τάς Ἀττικάς μήνας, ὡς Μεταγειτνιών και Βοηδρομιών. ἀνέγνων ὅτι Βοηδρομιών εστιν ὡς Σεπτέμβριος μήν και Ὀκτώβριος μήν. ἡ γής σου ὁμοίως εστι̍ν ἡ γής οὕ κατοικῶ ἐγώ. ενταύθα και ὁ ἥλιος ἐτι φλέγει. οὐ βρέξει, ἕως τοῦ Ὀκτωβρίου μήνος (ἤ τοῦ Νοεμϐρίου μήνος) ἐλεύσεται. καγω βούλομαι ψυχρότερον εἶναι! ἐν τῷ μεσημβρινῷ ἡμίσει, ὁ ἡλιος νυνί ἄρχει τῆς γῆς.

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σήμερον πάλιν εὐδία ἐστίν. λάμπει γὰρ ὁ ἥλιος. οἱ δὲ σοφοὶ λέγουσι ὅτι οὐ βρέξει. τὸ δὲ τῆς θερμασίας βάθος μόνον εἴκοσι καὶ τρία ἐστίν. δεῖ οὖν εὐχαριστεῖν τῷ Θεῷ ὑπὲρ τῶν καλῶν καιρῶν.
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ὅλην ἡμέρην βρέχοντος, ἡ τοῦ ἀεροσ ὑγρασία ἤν ἐνενήκοντα καὶ ἕξ κατὰ ἑκατόν. ἄρα μὴ δύναται εἶναι πλειών;
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daivid wrote:ὅλην ἡμέρην βρέχοντος, ἡ τοῦ ἀεροσ ὑγρασία ἤν ἐνενήκοντα καὶ ἕξ κατὰ ἑκατόν. ἄρα μὴ δύναται εἶναι πλειών;
οὐκ οἶδα μὲν, νομίζω δὲ ὅτι ἡ τοῦ ἀέρος ὑγρασία οὐ αὐξήσει ὑπὲρ τοῦ 96.
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ὅλην ἡμέραν ἔβρεχεν προς Δαυιδ; φευ. μακρόν χρόνον -ἐπεθυμοῦν τήν βροχήν πίπτειν. πέντε μήνας οὐ βρέχει ἐνταύθα. οὐδεμίᾳ ἡμέρᾳ οὐ ἔβρεξεν. ἀλλά σήμερον αἰσθάνομαι τὸν ψυχροτερον ἄερα.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Σαῦλος wrote:ὅλην ἡμέραν ἔβρεχεν προς Δαυιδ; φευ. μακρόν χρόνον -ἐπεθυμοῦν τήν βροχήν πίπτειν. πέντε μήνας οὐ βρέχει ἐνταύθα. οὐδεμίᾳ ἡμέρᾳ οὐ ἔβρεξεν. ἀλλά σήμερον αἰσθάνομαι τὸν ψυχροτερον ἄερα.

εἰ ἐδυνάμην δοῦναι ὑμῖν τὴν βροχὴν ἡμέρου ἐδίδουν ἄν. μέντοι τήμερον οὐ εβρεχε καὶ πολλάκις ὁ ἥλιος ἔλαμπε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Δαυιδ, ἐχαρήν λίαν ὅτι συ εχρήσω τῷ λόγῳ “εἰ.”
εἰ ἐδεξάμην τήν βροχήν σου, ἐχάρην ἄν. ἀλλά οὐ ἐδεξάμην βροχήν σου. φευ!
(νύν δε συ βλέπεις ὅτι εγώ πειρώμαι χρήσασθαι τῷ λόγῷ τῷ “εἰ.”
αρτι χρήσωμαι πάλιν τῷ “εἰ.”)
εἰ τις χρήσηται πάλιν τῷ λόγῳ “εἰ,” εγώ πάλιν χαιρήσομαι λίαν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Σαῦλος wrote:εἰ τις χρήσηται πάλιν τῷ λόγῳ “εἰ,” εγώ πάλιν χαιρήσομαι λίαν.
σήμερον οὐ δύναμαι τὸ ὐμβρέλλα εὐρίσκειν. διὰ τοῦτο, ἐὰν βρέχῃ, δευθήσομαι ἐγώ.
Smyth, Greek Grammar wrote: 2323. More vivid future conditions have in the protasis ἐάν (ἤν, ἄν) with the subjunctive; in the apodosis, the future indicative or any other form referring to future time.
ἐὰν ταῦτα ποιῇς (ποιήσῃς), καλῶς ποιήσεις if you do this, you will do well.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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ἀλεκτοροφωνίας οὔσας εἶδον τὴν σελήνην καὶ τὸν οὐρανὸν ἄνευ νεφελῶν. ἐνόμιζον ὅτι προέκειτο μοι εὐδία. μέντοι ἐπεὶ ἠγρόμην νεφέλαι ἐκάλυπτε τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ νῦν βρέχει.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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Markos wrote:
Smyth, Greek Grammar wrote: 2323. More vivid future conditions have in the protasis ἐάν (ἤν, ἄν) with the subjunctive; in the apodosis, the future indicative or any other form referring to future time.
ἐὰν ταῦτα ποιῇς (ποιήσῃς), καλῶς ποιήσεις if you do this, you will do well.
Forgive the English but it is harder for me to talk about Greek rather than English.

What I intended was an unreal present conditional. The intended implication that on a different day such as today that was raining I might be able to give Saulos some of our rain was of course a joke.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

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daivid wrote:What I intended was an unreal present conditional.
ναί, ὡς μάλιστα, πάνυ γε.

εἰ ἔβρεχε, ἐδευόμην ἄν.
Smyth, Greek Grammar, 2302-03 wrote:
In present and past unreal conditions the protasis implies that the supposition cannot or could not be realized because contrary to a known fact. The apodosis states what would be or would have been the result if the condition were or had been realized. The protasis has εἰ with the imperfect, aorist, or pluperfect indicative; the apodosis has ἄν with these past tenses.
Yes, you absolutely produced a correct "contrary-to-fact" conditional sentence. I was not correcting you, but rather I was adding my own conditional sentence, in this case a "future more vivid." I like Paul's idea about prompting each other to produce various grammatical constructions using vocabulary like "it is raining," that we have of necessity used over and over again on this thread. As he is wont to say, shield the vocab, but not the grammar.

εἰ βρέχοι, δεύοιμι ἄν.
Smyth, Greek Grammar 2329 wrote:
Less vivid future conditions (should . . . would conditions) have in the protasis εἰ with the optative, in the apodosis ἄν with the optative.
εἰ ταῦτα ποιοίης, καλῶς ἂν ποιοίης or εἰ ταῦτα ποιήσειας, καλῶς ἂν ποιήσειας if you should do this, you would do well.
Now I'll give you guys one:

τὸ "ὡς" σημαίνει πολλά. αἰτοῦμαι ὑμᾶς, παρακαλῶ, γράφε τι περὶ τῶν καιρῶν χρώμενος τῷ "ὡς."
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