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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:26 am

τήμερον ὁ ἄνεμος εστι ἀσθένης. πολλάκις εἶδον τὰ φυτὰ ἐκίνουν ἀλλὰ πολλάκις οὐδέν ἐκίνει. ὧδε τε εἷς καὶ δύο κατὰ τὴν τοῦ Βωφορτου κλίμακα.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:14 pm

σήμερον πάλιν καῦμά μοι πέμπει ὁ Θεός. τριάκοντα καὶ τέσσαρα κ.κ.Κ. τὰς δὲ νεφέλας βλέπειν οὐ δύναμαι. μόνον κυάνους οὐρανούς βλέπω ἔγωγε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:26 pm

ἀλεκτοροφωνίᾳ ἰδῶν τὴν σελήνην ἤλπιζον ὅτι ἔσοιτο αἰθρία. δήπου ὁ ἥλιος ελαμπε καὶ ὁ οὐρανὸς ἤν κύανος.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:30 am

ἑκηβόλος wrote:Σήμερον ὁ καιρὸς θερμὸς πανὺ ἦν, καὶ τῇ ἐννάτῃ ὡρᾳ ἀναβαίνουσα ἐφάνη ἡ ἀτμίς, τῇ ἐνδεκάτῃ δὲ οὐ ἔβρεξε. Διὸ ἡ πικρὸς ὀσμὴ φθειρομένων λαχάνων τε καὶ τὰ τοῦ οὔρου μιάσματα ἔτι ἐπὶ τὴν ῥύμην τὴν ὁμοροῦσαν τῇ οἰκίᾳ μου.


πάνυ γε, ὦ φίλε Ἑκηβόλε, προσεύχομαι ὅτι ὁ Θεὸς βρέξει τὴν σὴν γὴν ὥστε καθαρίζειν τὰς ὁδούς!

χαίρω δὴ εὐρίσκων σε ἐπι τοῦτον τὸν τόπον. βούλομαι δὲ ἐρρῶσθαί σε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:44 pm

ἀλεκτοροφωνίᾳ αὖθις ἔλαμπε ἡ σελήνη. αρα ὁ οὐρανὸς ἤν ὄντως ἄνευ νεφελῶν; ἐσκεψάμην εὶς τὸν οὐρανὸν ἠπιστάμην τὸν οὐρανὸν ἄνευ νεφελῶν εἶναι. μεσημβρίᾳ μὲν τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἄνευ νεφελῶν ὄντος ὁ ἥλιος ἔλαμπε, ἐσπέρα δε νεφέλαι ἐκάλυπτε τὸν οὐρανὸν.

νῦν εστι μεσονύκτιον. οὐκ οἴδα εἰ νεφέλαι καλύπτει τὸν οὐρανόν τῆς σελήνης οὐκ ἀνατεταλκυίας.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:54 am

τήμερόν τοι, μετὰ τρεῖς ἡμέρας τὸ καῦμα φερούσας, ἔπεσε δὴ τὸ τῆς θερμασίας βάθος. κατὰ γὰρ τὴν τοῦ Φαρενεῖτος κλίμακα μονον 86 ἦν. ἔπειτα, τῆς ἑσπέρας, ἔβρεχε ἰσχυρῶς μέν, ὀλιγοχρονῶς δέ. νῦν δὲ ψυχρός ἐστιν ὁ ἀέρ.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:44 pm

τήμερον ἔβρεχε ἀλλὰ ου ἰσχυρῶς. μέντοι ου βραχέως ὄντος τὰ φυτὰ εστι μακάρια.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:51 am

ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ, τὸ τῆς ὑγρασίας ἄκρον ἐστιν πεντήκοντα καὶ τέσσαρα. εὐδαίμων οὖν εἰμι.

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τὰ τῆς ὑγρασίας ἄκρα.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:35 am

ἐν τῇ πρωίᾳ ὥρᾳ τὸ τῆς ὑγιάσας βάθος ἤν ἑξηκοντὰ καὶ ἐννεὰ. νῦν, ἐν μεσημβρίᾳ, εστι τεσσεράκοντα καὶ πέντε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:18 pm

θερμὸς νῦν ἐστιν ὁ ἐν τῇ οἰκίᾳ ἀέρ. φλέγει γὰρ ὁ ἥλιος ἐπ' αὐτήν! φίλος οὖν μοι ὁ ἐμὸς εὔριπος.

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ὁ εὔριπος.



ἀπεψυγμένος γὰρ εἰμι ὑπὸ τοῦ εὐρίπου. διὰ δὲ τούτον, οὐκ ἱδρῶ.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:48 pm

ἐχθὲς μὲν οὖν οὐκ ἐνόμισα ὅτι βρέχοι. ἀλλ' ἔβρεξε δή. ἥμαρτον οὖν, ἀπατηθείς! ἐδόκησα γὰρ εἰδέναι, μὴ εἰδώς.

ἆρα οὖν βρέξει σήμερον? ἆρα δὲ βρεχθήσεται ἡ ἐμὴ γῆ? οὐκ οἶδα. μόνος Θεὸς οἶδε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:07 am

τεθερμασμένος ἤγειρα. ηρομην ει ἔσοιτο εὐδία. ου ἤν. ἔβρεξε καὶ ἔπειτα ἔβρεχε.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:34 am

daivid wrote: ἔβρεξε καὶ ἔπειτα ἔβρεχε.


ἐν Κολοράδο, θέλουσιν δὴ οἱ γεωργοὶ τὸν Θεὸν τὴν γῆν τε βρέξαι τε βρέχειν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:59 am

τήμερον ἀνεγείρων, ἔιδον δια τον θυρίδα τὴν γῆν ὑγρὴν οὖσαν καὶ δρόσον επι τοῦ φυτὰ κείμενον. αλλὰ επειτα ὁ ἤλιος ἔλαμψε καὶ ουκ αυθις εβρεξε.
Markos wrote:ἐν Κολοράδο, θέλουσιν δὴ οἱ γεωργοὶ τὸν Θεὸν τὴν γῆν τε βρέξαι τε βρέχειν.

καὶ εν Βρεττάνιᾳ οἱ γεωργοὶ νομιζουσι τὴν βροχήν ουκ ἱκανὴν εἶναι.
Βρεττάνιᾳ ἄνευ ἱκανης βροχής; - δεινῶς ἐστίν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:40 am

ταύτης τῆς νυκτὸς ἔμοιγε οἴκαδε περιπατοῦντι ἐφαίνετο ἡ σελήνη. μεγάλη τε καὶ λεύκη δὲ ἐφάνη. ἀναβλέπων δὲ εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν, ἐθαύμαζον τὴν σελήνην, κατὰ τὴν ὁδὸν βαδίζων, ὥστε ἔπταισα καὶ εἰς τὴν γῆν κατέπεσα!

daivid wrote:
Βρεττάνιᾳ ἄνευ ἱκανης βροχής; - δεινῶς ἐστίν.


χαίρε, φίλε!

περὶ μὲν οὖν τῶν Βρεττανικῶν καιρῶν ἔγραψεν Ἰωάννης Λέννον:

Sitting in an English garden
Waiting for the sun.
If the sun don't come you get a tan
From standing in the English rain...


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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:59 pm

τήμερον ἦν εὐδία. τὸ τῆς θερμασίας ἄκρον ἦν εἴκοσι καὶ τέσσαρες (ἑβδομήκοντα καὶ πέντε) ἀλλὰ νῦν εστι ὀκτωκαίδεκα.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:40 am

νῦν μὲν οὖν συννέφει, ἀλλ' οὐ βρέχει. πνέουσι δὲ οἱ ἄνεμοι ὥστε κινεῖν τοὺς τῶν δένδρων κλαδους. ἐπαύριον δὲ λέγουσιν οἱ σοφοὶ ὅτι θερμὸς ἔσται. καὶ οὗτοι εἶπον ὅτι σήμερον ἔσοιτο θερμός. καλῶς οὖν εἶπον. θερμὸς δὴ γὰρ ἦν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:43 pm

θερμὸς ἦν ὁ ἐχθὲς ἀέρος. ἐπὶ δε τὴν ἐμὴν οἰκίαν ἔφλεξεν πᾶσαν τὴν ἡμέραν ὁ ἥλιος. τεθερμασμένη οὖν ἦν ἡ οἰκία. ὅταν δὲ ἐκάθευσα, ἔτι τεθερμασμένος ἤμην ἔγωγε. τὴν οὖν θυρίδα ἀνῳξα. τῆς δὲ μεσονυκτός, πάλιν ἐψυχετο ὁ ἀέρος. κἀγὼ ἐγενόμην ἀπεψυγμένος! ῥιγῶν οὖν, ἀνέστην ἐκ τῆς κλίνης μου καὶ τὴν θυρίδα ἔκλεισεν δή.

νῦν δὲ πάλιν θερμός ἐστιν!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:16 pm

τήμερον μὲν ἡ χρῶμα ἡ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ἦν κύανος ἀλλὰ δε νῦν νυκτὸς οὔσης εστι μελαίνα.
Markos wrote: ἔτι τεθερμασμένος ἤμην ἔγωγε. τὴν οὖν θυρίδα ἀνῳξα.

ἐπεὶ θερμὸν εστιν κλείω θυρίδα θερμοτέρου ἔξω ὄντος
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:47 pm

τήμερον ὁ ἤλιος ἔλαμπε. ἐνίοτε μὲν εἶδον φῦλον ἐκίνησε ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀνέμου, πολλάκις δε οὐδὲν ἐκίνει. οὕτως νομίζω τὴν τοῦ ἀνέμου δύναμιν εἶναι οὐδὲν κατὰ τὴν κλίμακα τὴν τοῦ βωφορτου
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:13 am

πάλιν μὲν οὖν ἐν τῇ μου γῇ πάρεστι καῦμα. νυκτὸς μὲν ἱδρῶ ὥστε καθεύδειν οὐ δύναμαι. ἡμέρας δ' ἕξω ἐλθεῖν οὐ θέλω, τὴν θερμασίαν φοβούμενος.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby uberdwayne » Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:34 pm

Χαιρετε Φιλοι μου!

Σημερον εν Ονταριο μεν ουν θερμα η ημερα! και ο ηλιος λαμπει επι ημων.
μείζων ἐστὶν ὁ ἐν ὑμῖν ἢ ὁ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:51 pm

νῦν ἔστι καλὴ καὶ λαμπρὴ ἡμέρα.

Markos wrote:πάλιν μὲν οὖν ἐν τῇ μου γῇ πάρεστι καῦμα. νυκτὸς μὲν ἱδρῶ ὥστε καθεύδειν οὐ δύναμαι. ἡμέρας δ' ἕξω ἐλθεῖν οὐ θέλω, τὴν θερμασίαν φοβούμενος.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:17 am

ἐμὲ μὲν οὖν λυπούμενον πάλιν καταλαμβάνει δὴ ὁ καύσων. λίαν οὖν τεθερμασμένος εἰμι. τὸ δὲ ὕδωρ ἐκ μὲν κεφαλῆς πίπτει, ἐκ δ' οὐρανοῦ οὔκ!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:36 pm

νῦν θερμός ἐστιν. θερμὸς δὲ ἐχθὲς μὲν ἦν, ἐπαύριον δὲ θερμός ἔσται.

θ-ε-ρ-μ-ό-ς!

θ. θερμασίαν μισῶ
ε. ἐχθρὸς ἐμοί ἐστιν οὖτος ὁ καύσων.
ρ. ῥιγοῦν μὲν θέλω, ἱδροῦν δ' οὔκ!
μ. μὲ ἔχει δὴ τὸ καῦμα.
ο. οἴμοι! θερμός ἔστιν!
ς. σικέρας ἐπιθυμῶ, ὄντος θερμοῦ.

οὕτως θερμός ἐστιν ὥστε δύναμαι τὸ ᾠὸν ἐπὶ τῆς ὁδοῦ δύναμαι ὀπτῆσαι.


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ἐπὶ τῆς ὁδοῦ ὀπτᾶται τὸ ᾠὸν.

ἆρα εἶπον ὅτι θερμός ἐστιν?
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby atreus » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:46 pm

τήμερον μαλά θέρμος ἐστιν. ὁ ἥλιος φλέγει πικρῶς καί δοκεῖ μοι οὔδεποτε καταβήσεται. δεῖ τοῖς νέφελοις καταχεῖν τόν ὑετόν!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:20 am

τὸ τῆς θερμασίας ἄκρον ἦν εἴκοσι καὶ τρεῖς (ἑβδομήκοντα καὶ τρεῖς). θυραῖος ὠν ἴδουν ἀλλὰ οὐ λίαν.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Akemdwr » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:15 am

Ἐν τῇ χώρᾳ μου ἐχθὲς μὲν ἦν θέρος τὸ θερμότατον σήμερον δὲ ἐξαίφνης ἔστη χειμών. Καὶ νῦν εἴσιν οἱ σχεδόν τι γυμνοὶ βαδίζουσι εἴσι δὲ οἱ ἐν χλαίναις ἐξ ἐρίων.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:11 pm

αὐθίς γε θερμός ἐστιν ὁ ἐν τῇ χώρᾳ μου ἀέρος.

atreus wrote:τήμερον μαλά θέρμος ἐστιν.


χαῖρε, φίλε μου! χαρὰν δὲ ἔχω εὐρίσκων σε ὄντα καὶ γράφοντα ἐν τούτῳ τῷ τόπῳ. καλῶς δὲ γράφεις.

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Φίλοι, διὰ τί ὀνομάζετε τοὺς μετεωρολόγους σοφούς; μὴ ἄληθες ἡγεῖσθε αὐτοὺς σοφοὺς εἶναι; :D


φημι δή τοὺς μετεωρολόγους δοκεῖν εἶναι σοφούς, μὴ ὄντες.

daivid wrote:νῦν ἔστι καλὴ καὶ λαμπρὴ ἡμέρα.


χαῖρε, ἄριστε. οἶδα τὸν μὲν ἄρχοντα τῆς γῆς σου (λέγω δὴ τὸν Δαυιδ Καμερον) θέλει σὺν τοῖς ὅπλοις τὴν Συρίαν ἐπιτίθεσθαι. ὁ δὲ λαός ὁ Βρεταννικὸς οὐ θέλει τοῦτο ποιῆσαι. τί δὲ σὺ λέγεις? τί δὲ δοκεῖ σοί? τίς δὲ σή γνώμη περὶ τούτων? κατά σε, τί δεῖ ἡμᾶς ποιεῖν ὑπὲρ τῆς Συρίας? πολεμίζωμεν ἢ οὔ?

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:15 am

μεσημβρίᾳ ὁ οὐρανὸς ἢν κύανος. ἑσπέρᾳ ἀφώτιστος. ἔπειτα τὸ τοῦ ἡλιοῦ φὼς ἐκαλύφθη. ἆρα αἱ νεφέλαι ἐκάλυπτε τὸν ἥλιον; ου, ἠλίθιος ανθροπος ἔθηκε αρμα προ τὴν θυρίδα :x .
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:09 pm

τέλος μὲν οὖν οἴχεται ἐκ τῆς γῆς μου τὸ καῦμα! τὸ γὰρ τῆς θερμασίας βάθος μόνον ὀγδοήκοντα ἔσται. χαίρω οὖν. μισῶ γὰρ τὸν καύσονα. βροχὴν δὲ προσδοκοῦμεν. τὴν γὰρ βροχὴν φιλῶ θερμοῦ ὄντος τοῦ ἀέρος. ὅταν δὲ ἀπεψυγμένος εἰμι, τὴν βροχὴν μισῶ. νῦν δὲ αὐτὴν φιλῶ παύουσαν τὸ καῦμα.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:52 am

τήμερον εἶδον μικρά κλάδα κινοῦντα ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀνεμοῦ οὐκοῦν τέσσερες κατὰ τὴν κλίμακα τὴν τοῦ βωφορτου. μέντοι οἱ σοφοὶ εἰπὲ ὅτι μόνος τρεῖς ἤν. ἀλλὰ οὐ φημι εἶναι ἀεὶ τέσσερες – μόνος ἐπεί εἶδον.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:34 pm

τήμερον αὖθις ὁ οὐρανὸς ἤν ὥσπερ κύανος. ὁ τῆς θερμασίας ἄκρον ἦν εἴκοσι καὶ τρεῖς (ἑβδομήκοντα καὶ τρεῖς). τάχα έσται θερμότατος.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:55 am

σήμερον μέντοι πεφλεγμένος ἦν ὁ ἥλιος ὥστε ἔτι θερμός ἐστιν. πολὺν δὲ χρόνον οὐκ ἦν βεβρεγμένος. ἵδρωκα οὖν καὶ λυποῦμαι. μὴ δὲ βρέχοντος, ἔγωγε βρέχομαι τῷ σίκερι.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:52 pm

μεσημβρίᾳ αἱ νεφέλαι ὅλως ἐκάλυπτε τόν ουρανον. νῦν αἱ νεφέλαι πολλάκις καλύπτει τόν ἤλιον αλλὰ πολλάκις ὁ ἥλιος λάμπει.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:36 pm

ἀβροχία νῦν ἐστιν ἐν τῇ γῇ μου. ἄβροχος γὰρ ἡ γῆ. τῆς δὲ βροχῆς ἐπιθυμῶ. ἀφανίσω γὰρ τὸν καύσονα ἡ βροχή. σήμερον δὴ ἀνέτειλεν ἡ ἥλιος σὺν καύσονι. καὶ ἔτι ὑπερφλέγει ὥστε τεθερμασμένος νῦν εἰμι.

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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby atreus » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:52 am

τήμερον ἐστί ἡ τρίτη ἡμέρα Μεταγειτνιών (ἴσος μῆνι "September". ἐστι δεύτερος μήν Ἀττικός, καί δεύτερος μήν Θέρου) και ὁ ἥλιος λάμπων δοκεῖ οὔδεποτε καταβαίνειν. τό τῆς θερμασίης βάθος ἐστί δέκα και ἑκατον κατά τούς σοφούς!
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:56 pm

τήμερον ἢν θερμότατον - εἴκοσι καὶ ἑπτὰ κατὰ τὴν τοῦ Τσελσιου κλίμακα (ὀγδοήκοντα καὶ εἷς). ἀβροχία οὐκ ἐστιν τουτεῖ. μέντοι τὰ φυτὰ εισι ἦκα δίψια.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby daivid » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:01 pm

νῦν ἔστι καλὴ καὶ λαμπρὴ ἡμέρα αλλὰ τάχα ἔσται θερμοτάτη. ἐκτός ων τεθερμασμένος ἔσομαι.
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Re: What's the weather like where you live today (Greek)

Postby Markos » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:25 pm

ἐχθὲς μέντοι ἀνέτειλεν ὁ ἥλιος ὥστε θερμαίνειν τε τὴν μου γῆν κἀμὲ ἑμαυτόν. καὶ διὰ τῆς ὅλης ἡμέρας ἱδροῦν δή. πάλιν δ' ἡ ἀβροχία εἶχε τὴν γῆν. σήμερον δὲ λέγουσιν οἱ σοφοὶ ὅτι θερμὸς ἔσοιτο.
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