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Anyone for tennis? (or a small challenge)

I find that nothing builds confidence quite so much, when you're learning a new language (or just enjoying it), as memorising a few choice lines of its literature. I read somewhere that, if the entire corpus of Horace's works were to disappear overnight in a world conflagration, there would be enough "memories" in the heads of professors and students to piece it all back together again. I wonder whether the same could be said for ...
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Atehnaze Group?

Not long ago, there was a group working through Athenaze. I assume it has finished the book by now-or is it still around? If not, is there any hope of a new group doing Athenaze?
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An OLD question but still...

With a nod to IreneY's "Resources" post, tell me this: suppose you have a fairly good back-ground in Greek and you had the opportunity to teach beginning Greek to a bright High School student, what is the best text ? She just wants a good, solid introduction this summer, probably continuing in the Fall. I'm looking for a text that's thorough, easily available and not scary (you know what I mean). I considered Ancient Greek ...
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Advice on Learning Koine Greek


I am very hard of hearing, almost to the point of being completely deaf. Anyway, I am trying to learn Biblical Greek (on my own) without having to become fluent in it. I have Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek Book and workbook.

I must say that it is hard for me to stick with it. I get into it a little bit, then out of it. When I get back into it, I have ...
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Gerundive but without noun it describes

I understand that Gerundive is a verbal adjective and will (usually?) have an associated noun that it describes. The Plebs believe that the king of Rome to succeed Romulus should come from amongst them. The patricians are inclined to make concessions.

Cum hoc sensissent patres, populo concedendum esse censuerunt - ita tamen ut non plus iuris darent quam retinerent. Decreverunt enim ut, cum populus regem creavisset, patres auctores fierent.

is 'se' the implied word ...
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Orberg Cap XLII

Slightly (I suspect) idiomatic paragraph from Orberg (from Livy).

Omnibus igitur patribus placebat aliquod caput civitatis esse, nec vero quisquam alteri concedere volebat. Itaque centum patres summum imperium inter se consociaverunt. Deni simul quinos dies imperitabant, quorum principes, qui 'interreges' nominabantur, cum insignibus imperii erant. Ita imperium per omnes in orbem ibat. ...
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Phaedo 70.C.5 "ancient tradition"

Phaedo 70.C.5
παλαιὸς μὲν οὖν ἔστι τις λόγος οὗ μεμνήμεθα, ὡς εἰσὶν ἐνθένδε
ἀφικόμεναι ἐκεῖ, καὶ πάλιν γε δεῦρο ἀφικνοῦνται καὶ γί-
γνονται ἐκ τῶν τεθνεώτων· καὶ εἰ τοῦθ' οὕτως ἔχει, πάλιν
γίγνεσθαι ἐκ τῶν ἀποθανόντων τοὺς ζῶντας, ἄλλο τι ἢ εἶεν
ἂν αἱ ψυχαὶ ἡμῶν ἐκεῖ;

Do we know anything about the referent for παλαιὸς ... τις λόγος?
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Greek or Latin?

one of the many advantages that Greek has over Latin.

Without disputing mwh's assertion, I think it's worth pointing out that Latin has some advantages over Greek. Paradoxically, the lack of articles is one of them. Reading the slightly simplified Livy in the Latin forum, I was reminded of the concision and clarity of the best Latin prose. And the exquisite patterning of words that Latin poets such as Vergil and Horace achieve, ...
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οὐ ῥᾴδιόν ἐστιν -- stressed twice when reading aloud?

I am currently reading 'The Chimaera', a story from Morice's Stories in Attic Greek, and I came across the following sentence talking about the beast:

ἡ Χίμαιρα θηρίον τι ἦν τερατῶδες, τὸ δὲ τοῦ σώματος εἶδος εἶχε τοιοῦτον, ὥστε οὐ ῥᾴδιόν ἐστιν αὐτὸ διηγεῖσθαι.

I was wondering whether, when you're reading this aloud, you would stress the word ῥᾴδιόν twice in practice? When I try it it sounds very odd! I have tried just stressing ...

Comparison between Machen's and Croy's textbooks

Clayton Croy's "A Primer of Biblical Greek" and Machen's "New Testament Greek for Beginners: Second Edition" share enough similarities that I would be very surprised if Croy's book was not based on Machen's first edition. I have worked through 10 units of Croy, and have looked ahead through unit 15 to make these comments, and so my comments correspond roughly to the first half of each book. I have read through Machen's 11th lesson, and ...


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