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Is word accent relevant?

Pharr, at item 68, says "The written word-accent must be disregarded in reading the verse."

If so, why do we bother learning word accents? Would it make sense, when learning vocabulary, to memorize words as though the accents fall on the long vowels? That would be more helpful for correct reading, and also aid in remembering omicron vs omega and epsilon vs eta.

Or am I missing something?

indirect discourse

Most textbooks give the infinitive tenses only in the active voice and only rarely use the passive. Also I would assume that it is possible to use the subjunctive as well. Is there a website that I can access that includes passive and subjunctive examples that I could use? I have consulted some Latin grammars but to no avail.
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subjunctive problem

Nuntium igitur ad navem misit qui Jasoni persuaderet ut sibi auxilium ferret. I understand why ferret has subjunctive form but why is persuaderet in the subjunctive?
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Greek reader reviews

Some readers that I have used or come across. For the readers that I really like, I've either purchased a copy, or had one bound at lulu.com (only a few dollars), rather than reading them online.

Greek Boy At Home by W.H.D. Rouse
Text: https://archive.org/details/greekboyathomest01rousuoft
Vocabulary: http://www.johnpiazza.net/greek_boy_vocab

The Greek is good and idiomatic. Parodies from very diverse sources (the Onomasticon, Philogelos, and many ...
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Greek and Latin learning via Skype. Classics at home.

Χαίρετε ὦ φίλοι,

Τὴν Ἑλληνικὴν γλώσσαν μαθητὴς γὰρ ὤν δία ὀὺκ ὀλίγων ἐτῶν, νεωστὶ ηὔρηκα θαυμαστὸν τόπον ἐν ᾧ ἔξεστί τε δυνατὸν καὶ γλυκύτατον τήν τῶν ἀρχαίων Ἑλλήνων φωνὴν ῥαδίως μαθεῖν. Εἰ ὑμῖν ἀρέσκει τὸ καθ´ ἡμέραν θάττον ἀναγώσκειν τὰ ἔργα τῶν δεινοτάτων συγγραφέων τῆς Ἑλλάδος, ἐν τούτῳ τῷ τόπῳ δυνήσεσθε ἥδεσθαι δὴ τᾦ μαθεῖν τε καί τᾦ διδασκάλῳ, σπουδαίῳ μὲν ἀγαθῷ δὲ τε καί χρηστοτάτῳ ὄντι.

Dear ...
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Eccl 2:3

κατεσκεψάμην ἐν καρδίᾳ μου τοῦ ἑλκύσαι εἰς οἶνον τὴν σάρκα μου* καὶ καρδία μου ὡδήγησεν ἐν σοφίᾳ καὶ τοῦ κρατῆσαι ἐπ᾽ ἀφροσύνῃ** ἕως οὗ ἴδω ποῖον τὸ ἀγαθὸν τοῖς υἱοῖς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ὃ ποιήσουσιν ὑπὸ τὸν ἥλιον ἀριθμὸν ἡμερῶν*** ζωῆς αὐτῶν (Ecc 2:3 LX)

How I parsed in my head: I looked closely in my heart: in order to drag my flesh towards wine*, and my heart led in wisdom; and in order to** rule ...
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τὰ πράγματα ἐν τῇ Ἑλλάδι

Ἀθῆναι οὕτος ὑπόχρεως ὥστε οὐ δυναταὶ ἀποδοῦναι τά πάντα. δει συμμαχίαν συγχωρεῖν ἵνα μὴ ἀποβάλωμεν καὶ Ἑλλάδα τὲ τά πάντα χρήματα .
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Semonides (1)

Hello guys!

I had troubles with the following iambic pentameters, could you help me with the scanning?

μενουσιν ελθειν, οι δ' ετεων περιτροπας.
I think that I have problems with the fourth foot.

πεμπει μελαινης Αιδης υπο χθονος.
Should I assume that there is a dieresis on Αιδης? Then I would have:

And I would appreciate if you give me some help with these other two verses which I couldn't make sense ...
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getting started with Horace

Horace, Odes, Book 1, no. 6

I comment on the 3rd stanza, which follows two stanzas in which Horace explains that his poetic muse does not reach to large-scale epic grandeur. This is why, says Horace, some other dude has sung the recent exploits of Agrippa. I'll do the grammar first, because that's where I had the most trouble. After that I'll hazard a translation.

. . . tenues grandia, dum pudor
inbellisque lyrae ...
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Sappho poems, newish and new

Transferred from the viewtopic.php?f=2&t=63636 thread, which it seems I killed. But surely there must be some interest in these poems, the most important additions to ancient Greek literature to come along in a long time. And this is Sappho!

mwh wrote:Ten years ago the combination of a newly discovered papyrus with a previously known one gave us a poem complete except for the beginnings of its first four lines. It’s ...
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