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Antigone 42

ποῦ γνώμης ποτ᾽ εἶ;

According to the translation, the meaning would be something like "what do you have in mind?", but I couldn't give grammatical sense to the sentence. The notes just say that γνώμης is a partitive genitive, but it didn't help :(
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Early Modern Italian (?) in relation to Latin (reading)

I hope this is not too off-topic for this section of the forum.

I introduced myself a couple years ago and got apparently solid advice on returning to Latin and getting started with Greek -- advice that I admit I have done little with. Excuses, excuses.

I am here to ask if anyone knows of resources that would be helpful for reading what I guess is Early Modern Italian - Leonardo, to be specific. I ...
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This is a test. I'm trying to restart the thread from the Koine board over here. That board is no longer safe. Mr. I'msick Nuisance watches it like a hawk waiting to turn any and every discussion into an epic theological debate. I think that we are off of his radar over here. If he cannot be banned, then maybe the best option is to have discussions about Koine over here.
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odyssey book 5, line 29

‘Ἑρμεία, σὺ γὰρ αὖτε τά τ᾽ ἄλλα περ ἄγγελός ἐσσι,

An exact, then sensible translation, please.

Richard Ross
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the European union using Virtues and Vices as a template

τριμέτρων δὲ τοῦ τῆς Εὐρωπης ἔργου, τοῦ μὲν ἐκτός εὐγένεια ἐστιν ἡ βοήθεια τοῖς κινδυνεύουσιν ἐκ πολεμίου, τοῦ δὲ ἐσχατιάς ἥ εὔνοια τοῖς ἀναστάτοις, τῶν ἔνδοθεν ἥ ὁμόνοια .
ἁμαρτία δ᾽ ἐστὶ τοῦ μὲν ἐκτός ἡ δειλία, τοῦ δὲ ἐσχατιάς ἥ ὑποψία πρὸς ξένους, τοῦ δὲ ἐσχατιάς ἥ τε ἅμιλλα καὶ ἡ ὀργιλότης.

I have kept pretty close to the original. I'm not sure that all the vocab I've used quite fits. I am attempting ...
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Reversal of word order in alterorum/alterorum


I am a bit confused by the way Adler uses the partitive relation denoted by the English "of" in Latin, specifically why he switches the order of the words in the answer.

  • Suntne amici tui filio tot togae quot indusia?
  • Sunt ei quot alterorum, tot alterarum (illarum).

In the above example from Adler's "Key to the Exercises contained in Adler's Practical Grammar" (Lesson 23, Exercise 31) the order female/neuter in the ...
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Supplements to Rouse's Instrumental Dative Drills

W.H.D. Rouse, First Greek Course, p. 8 wrote:Image

John 17:5: καὶ νῦν δόξασόν με σύ, πάτερ, παρὰ σεαυτῷ τῇ δόξῃ ἧ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί.

τί ἔχει ὁ πατήρ?
τὴν δόξαν ἔχει ὁ πατήρ.
τί ποιήσει ὁ πατὴρ τῇ δόξῃ?
τῇ δόξῃ τὸν Ἰησοῦν δοξάσει ὁ πατήρ.

Xenophon, Anabasis 1,2,13: ἐνταῦθα ἦν παρὰ τὴν ὁδὸν κρήνη ἡ Μίδου καλουμένη τοῦ Φρυγῶν βασιλέως, ἐφ᾽ ᾗ λέγεται Μίδας τὸν Σάτυρον θηρεῦσαι οἴνῳ ...
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God of this, god of that

Venus is the roman goddess of Love, Zeus the greek god of thunder, Thor the norse god of lightning.

This is how these lovely creatures are introduced in school, in mythology dictionaries, and even in greek and latin textbooks.

I have been wondering for some time whether in greek or latin there would be any similar expression, t.i., deus + gen., or theós + gen.

I have still not seen it in any of my ...
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Euphony in Romans

For a long time I have noticed that the introduction to Paul's letter to the Romans does not hit my ear like normal prose. Instead it is very sonorous. Now looking at it carefully, I notice the stretch of long syllables at the beginning, and throughout many dactyls and spondee.

Two conclusions from this: 1) Paul is sensitive to vowel length in the first century AD. This may put some geographical limitations on his Greek ...
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Informal Reading Survey

No one need feel obliged to answer this, but I'm curious where the intermediate readers on here are getting their (reading) material, particularly those who have finished grammars and are studying on their own, whether in a directed or desultory fashion. I've been reading .pdfs from Google pretty exclusively, finding books either on my own, through a couple of bibliographies of free Classics books that can be found here and there on the web or ...
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