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internal accusative/object

Since I failed to find anywhere an explicit definition of the concept in the subject line, I am attempting to provide my own, based on the examples kindly supplied in response to my previous posting, and am inviting your criticisms.
Here it is: an internal object is an object that can be inferred from the meaning of a verb and designated by a noun not necessarily cognate with that verb.
E.g., τυπτειν πολλα. I was ...
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Euripides, Helen 753-757

............................τοῖς θεοῖσι χρὴ
θύοντας αἰτεῖν ἀγαθά, μαντείας δ᾿ ἐᾶν·
βίου γὰρ ἄλλως δέλεαρ ηὑρέθη τόδε,
κοὐδεὶς ἐπλούτησ᾿ ἐμπύροισιν ἀργὸς ὤν·
γνώμη δ᾿ ἀρίστη μάντις ἥ τ᾿ εὐβουλία.

What is ἄλλως doing here precisely? Is it signaling the contrast between what people think μαντεία is for versus the fact that was invented as a δέλεαρ βίου?
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Classical Greek with Direct Method?

I'm investigating the possibility of using Direct Method in a Classical Greek class (I'm interested mostly in Classical, not Koine). What do you think?

Has anyone been in such a class? How was it? How did the teacher pronounced the sounds and the accents?

I guess it is possible, especially with the help of the phrasebooks and other sources here.
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Looking for: Print edition of Lewis & Short


I am thinking about investing in a good print edition (i.e. hardcover) of a good dictionary, and I have more or less settled on Lewis & Short, because this seems to be the one recommended (among others by Reginaldus Thomas Foster in Ossa Latinitatis Sola (and a book review here), which I have recently acquired.

I am willing to spend a bit of money here, since it is a long term investment. Still, I ...
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The use of the theta passives in the middle-passive system.

Barry Hofstetter wrote:you are confusing. I often read something you write and wonder what the gehenna you've actually said. You make stuff way too complicated.
I sent the following observation about the use of theta "passive" forms, and the others that of themselves take those endings to Carl Conrad himself by email, and his response was that he didn't didn't really understand what I was talking about. I suppose that there is no harm posting the same ...

New Comer

Hello my name is Michel and I am a new comer to this site. I live in Montréal, Québec, Canada. I studied three years Latin when I was in College. My insterest in Latin has been continuous. Later on, I learned by myself Ancient Greek and Sanskrit. Due to a lack of time, I was studying these languages on and off. I have many books on Latin, Greek and Sanskrit but since these languages are ...
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Translation of a Few Greek Sentences

I need to know what the below text is speaking about. It mentions Jesus’ coming, using the words παρουσία and ἔλευσις coupled with the word δευτέρα. Can someone translate the three marked sentences?

Apocalypsis apocrypha Joannis (versio tertia), extract: “Καὶ γὰρ οὐκ εἰσὶν οἱ ἄγγελοι πονηροί, μὴ γένοιτο, ἀλλὰ διὰ τὰς πράξεις τῶν ἁμαρτωλῶν γενήσονται καὶ οἱ ἄγγελοι πονηροὶ καὶ ἀπάγουνται ἀπέναντι τῶν κολάσεων ὅπου μέλ(λ)ουν κολάζεσθαι εἰς ὅλους τοὺς αἰῶνας, καὶ θεωρεῖ τοὺς βασάνους ...
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Koller's Orbis Pictus Latinus

I recently stumbled across this in a university library. It's a pictorial dictionary of latin. I never heard of it before, but it looks like it would mesh well with Orberg's LLPSI. Even the style of illustration looks similar.
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Plato, Apology 34 d1-3

εἰ δή τις ὑμῶν οὕτως ἔχει—οὐκ ἀξιῶ μὲν γὰρ ἔγωγε, εἰ δ’ οὖν—ἐπιεικῆ ἄν μοι δοκῶ πρὸς τοῦτον
λέγειν λέγων
ὅτι ...
I am wondering whether my parsing of the part in bold is correct. I take
ἐπιεικῆ to be neuter plural with adverbial force, qualifying λέγειν;
ἄν with λέγειν to be the apodosis of the future less vivid condition;
λέγων to be the protasis of the future less vivid condition.
So, a translation might ...
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