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Horace, Odes, 2,8: a question of tone

Context: Horace poetically scorches a devastatingly attractive femme fatale (have I got this right?)

ll. 5-8:

. . . sed tu simul obligasti
perfidum votis caput, enitescis
pulchrior multo iuvenumque prodis
publica cura.


My effort at translation:

but you bound yourself with oaths on your lying head
now, you seem more beautiful still
a public guardian of the young.

I read
publica cura
as savagely sarcastic. I guess that Horace means that this enchantress ...
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it rained in Ancient Greek

This a fork from the weather thread in the Agora

LSJ gives several references for the intransitive use of βρέχω. The most easily accessible (ie online) is the Epistle of James 5.17-18

Ἠλείας ἄνθρωπος ἦν ὁμοιοπαθὴς ἡμῖν, καὶ προσευχῇ προσηύξατο τοῦ μὴ βρέξαι, καὶ οὐκ ἔβρεξεν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἐνιαυτοὺς τρεῖς καὶ μῆνας ἕξ: καὶ πάλιν προσηύξατο, καὶ ὁ οὐρανὸς ὑετὸν ἔδωκεν καὶ ἡ γῆ ἐβλάστησεν τὸν καρπὸν αὐτῆς.

Elijah was a man ...
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morphology: passive of consonant stem and capio-group

Dear all,

I have stumbled upon something that has forced me to ask others about a possible answer.
I have studied Latin at university for five years, but I still can't come up with an answer to this question.

It might be my lack of knowledge in Latin morphology....

The passive of mittere is as follows: mittor, mitteris, mittitur, mittimur, mittimini, mittuntur.
The passive of capere is as follows: capior, caperis, capitur, capimur, capimini, capiuntur. ...
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Accent, ἆρ' ἐστὶ

Aristotle's Metaphysics 1049 a 1:
οἷον ἡ γῆ ἆρ' ἐστὶ δυνάμει ἄνθρωπος;

Why not ἆρ' ἐστι ?
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indīco & indĭco

L&S lists both these verbs, viz. indĭcare,avisse,atum, & indīco, indīxisse,indictum.

Does anyone know how (if?) they are related? What is it that can explain the difference in vowel quantity? Are there other examples of this variation?

Thank you.
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Ὁμιλεῖτε Ἑλληνικά (Do you speak Greek?)

Thanks to Joel for finding this

https://archive.org/stream/DoYouSpeakGr ... 0/mode/2up

although I note that Louis Sorenson mentioned it in passing a few years ago on B-Greek.

http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/lists.ibi ... 53149.html

This book does three things which are staples of the Direct Method.

1. It includes Ancient Greek forms of all its metalanguage.
2. It uses pictures and L2 definitions to minimize the need for L1 ...
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erat invectus - Roma Aeterna XLV Lines 33–34

Turnus Herdōnius ab Arīciā ferōciter in absentem Tarquinium erat invectus.

I have a syntax question here. Why is erat placed before invectus instead of after it as is usually the case?
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Why do we use the genitive singular as the stem identifier?

It seems to me that there's a very clear problem with using the genitive singular as the way to learn/identify the stem of Greek nouns.

Take ναύτης, for example, the first-declension word that means "sailor." The entry in Hansen & Quinn gives ναύτης, ναύτου. From this you would expect that the stem is ναύ-, and you'd use that to get all the rest of the forms, including e.g. the nominative plural ναύται—which is wrong. The ...
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A Reader

Bradley H. McLean, Hellenistic and Biblical Greek: A Graduated Reader (2014).
I’ve only seen a review of it (http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2015/2015-08-22.html), but it sounds good. The same author’s introduction to NT Greek I thought was awful (though probably no worse than others), but I don't think that shouldn’t put anyone off the Reader. It seems to give a good range of readings (largely but not wholly biblical or bible-related), organized by ...
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bryn mawr commentaries - all the same?

I did have the impression that Bryn Mawr Commentaries were all pretty much the same. The commentary is very much focused on the grammar without getting distracted to wider historical or artistic aspects but not as extensive as I at least really need.

Two of their commentaries, I have tried, have changed my mind.
Chariton: Callirhoe, Book 1 by Cashman Kerr Prince does keep to the grammar but he focuses on the accidence and there ...
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