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Passage in Apology Plato

I have a question about passage 23d9 in Plato's apology, I am wondering why the "ἅτε οὖν οἶμαι" is followed by a nominative instead of an accusative. My understanding is that it translates literally as "Therefore seeing that I consider". I would expect the "φιλότιμοι ὄντες καὶ σφοδροὶ....." and what follows to be the direct object of "ἅτε οὖν οἶμαι". Is there a peculiarity about this "οἶμαι" verb that I do not know about?

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Learn to Read Greek

One of my colleagues wants to learn Greek and asked for my advice concerning textbooks. I used Mastronarde myself, but didn't really like it, though it's definitely a solid introduction. He's specifically interested in Attic (mainly philosophy), so I can't recommend Schroeder & Horrigan or Pharr.
So I have been looking around a bit and would like to know if someone has experience with Learn to Read Greek by Keller and Russel: ...
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Anachronism in pronunciation with accentuation?

We know that the accent marks were only added around 3rd century BC for foreign people to learn contemporary Greek better. But this means that the accent marks only reflect the accenting situation at around that time. So, they do not mark the accenting situation in, say, Aristotle's time or Homer's time.

Some of us use the "reconstructed classical pronunciation" for Classical and Epic/Homeric Greek, together with the foresaid accentuation system. The pronunciation is thought ...
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I'm restarting a group for Greek: An Intensive Course by Hansen and Quinn.

Anyone interested in joining? It's a difficult, fast-paced textbook. Great for a thorough review or a quick drive into more advanced Greek texts and grammatical structures.

If you've got time for an intensive study of Greek, please let me know. I can get a temporary electronic version of the text to you until you're able to get a copy for yourself. (My ...
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Livy 42.65.10

In Livy 42.65.10 a sling that throws darts is described as funda media duo scutalia imparia habebat. One translation says that the sling had two "beds" in its length, presumably to cradle each end of the dart, while another has the sling "held by two thongs, one shorter than the other." So do we have a sling with two cradles instead of one, or do we have a sling with the usual single cradle that ...
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what is the meaning of "non" in this sentence?

Cicero signals his intention to begin his philosophical discussion by reviewing Epicureanism.

Ut autem a facillimis ordiamur, prima veniat in medium Epicuri ratio, quae plerisque notissima est. quam a nobis sic intelleges expositam, ut ab ipsis, qui eam disciplinam probant, non soleat accuratius explicari;

Translation: In order to begin with the easiest, we place in review the theory of Epicurus, which is the best known to the majority. Here you will see Epicureanism set ...
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My personal connection to ancient Rome through Vergil

A couple of days ago I was reading this review by Emily Gowers of Graffiti and the Literary Landscape in Roman Pompeii, by Kristina Milnor, in TLS:


My thoughts were stimulated by this:

. . . In view, one reason graffiti should intrigue us is because it shows how permeable the borders were between elite and popular culture. . . .

One of the most extreme forms of high–low exchange takes the form ...
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qua de re

Does qua de re mean something like "on this topic"?

That seems to fit this example:

Qua de re cum sit inter doctissimos summa dissension . . .
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Third Chorus Soph. OT {Ant. 2.} 896-910

I was doing a little free-association contemplation re: Soph. OT 896-901. It sounds to me like a little bit of post-enlightenment scepticism, something vaguely like: if you can't demonstrate to me how the oracles prediction is fulfilled in a manner that everyman can verify by observation, I will give up participating in the worship … traveling to the temple, oracle whatever. Since academic criticism of Sophocles is foreign territory I looked for an article on ...
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τῶν τις

Herodotus 1.185.2:
πρῶτα μὲν τὸν Εὐφρήτην ποταμὸν ῥέοντα πρότερον ἰθύν, ὅς σφι διὰ τῆς πόλιος μέσης ῥέει, τοῦτον ἄνωθεν διώρυχας ὀρύξασα οὕτω δή τι ἐποίησε σκολιὸν ὥστε δὴ τρὶς ἐς τῶν τινα κωμέων τῶν ἐν τῇ Ἀσσυρίῃ ἀπικνέεται ῥέων.

What disturbs me is this sandwiching τις between the article and the noun, which I had already encountered before twice or thrice in Herodotus in τῶν τις Λυδών. I don't remember seeing this in Greek before. ...
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