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Potential Optative Clause with Relative Pronoun?


From Plato's Apology, 34b6,

Ei0=en dh/, w)= a)/ndrej: a(\ me\n e)gw\ e)/xoim0 a)\n a)pologei=sqai, sxedo/n e)sti tau=ta kai\ a)/lla i)/swj toiau=ta.

Can I call the first clause in the sentence above a potential optative with a neuter accusative plural relative pronoun (a(/)?

My traslation: "Very well, men; that (tau=ta) is about all, and more perhaps of the same kind (toiau=ta), which (a(/) I could/ have to offer in (my) defence."

Thank you.

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