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2nd Aorist Optative?

Friends,
I have been studying Greek (koine) for 2 years and doing tutored study for about 2 more years. I was reading in my LXX and I came across a word that I could not identify fully.

Daniel 6:16b
Translation: "Thy God whom thou servest continually, he *will deliver* thee." (KJV)

word: ekeleitai
accent: penult/long
direct discourse

My guess: airew, third person singular, 2 aorist, optative

Issue: Why is the penult accented?

Sincerely,
Mike Ferrando ...
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european commissioners

The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications,
rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that
English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a
five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for
short).

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft ...
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Are you a barbarian?

Seems to me that if you use Attic pronunciation, you sound like a barbarian to Modern Greek folks. I wonder if this is the true consensus of most Attic Greek linguists in Greece? The world mostly agrees with the classical pronunciation, but most linguists in Greece seem to not agree with the rest of the world. Why? What is up with these silly folks? Am I just stereotyping? I’ve listened to Old English and I ...
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latin accent in golden age: pitch or stress?

hi guys,

i've read in several places that latin might have had a pitch accent rather than a stress accent in the golden age. varro talks about the "pitch" (altitudo) rather than the stress of the accent (De Lingua Latina, 210, 10-16, GS).

i know that later on, latin like greek definitely had a stress accent. but what's the evidence for the pronunciation of the accent as stress in the golden age?

i'd like to ...
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It might be a coincidence but...

Is this a coincidence or have I discovered a fun philological tid bit? In the nominative case, quae is plural neuter and feminine singular. In the nominative case, haec is plural neuter and feminine singular. I would like to include ea and illa too, but almost all neuter plurals in the nominative end in a.

Whether it is an unexplainable coincidence or not, it at least helps me remember the pronouns ...
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Victorian rhimes

i have a question.
how can the two last lines rhime?
"To thee we sing, our holiest, fairest god,
The One who in that awful chaos trod
And woke the Elements by Law of Love
To teeming worlds in harmony to move."
(a prize to who ever recognises it. hint: its a translation.)
was the pronunciation different in the victorian times?
here is more:
"Come nestle closely with those lips of love
And balmy breath, ...
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indirect speech in Iliad 1:110-115

I would consider the sentence from line 110 to the first two words of line 113 indirect speech.
How about from there to the end of line 115?
In other words, is Aggamemnon saying; 'I certainly prefer the girl to my wife..... 'or is it; ' You Calchas, said that I certainly prefer the girl to my wife.....'


WPM Poll

Well, what is it? :)

Benissimus types at 73-78 WPM.
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"Homer's use of particles..."

My student's Odyssey i-xii by W.B. Stanford has a sketch of the Homeric language. This is his summary after a quick list of the particles, which I thought some others would appreciate:

"Homer's use of particles is copious, fluid and perplexing."


Le subjonctif imparfait

The french imperfect subjunctive is only used formally and in literature.

For me it is a loser of a 'tense'. French verbs for me are difficulter than latin verbs. At least in latin there is a point to everything and at least I can find the conjugations of irregular verbs' imperfect subjunctives as it is a commonly occurring subjunctive.

In french "Il fallait qu'il parlat", I wrote something like that, and my teacher thought that ...
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