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Iliad 4, 158-159

Agamemnon speaking right after his brother Menelaos is hit by a Trojan arrow, effectively ending the truce

οὐ μέν πως ἅλιον πέλει ὅρκιον αἷμά τε ἀρνῶν
σπονδαί τ᾽ ἄκρητοι καὶ δεξιαὶ ᾗς ἐπέπιθμεν.

ἐπέπιθμεν = pluperfect, agreed? To be sure I have this right: the pluperfect denotes a fixed state in the past. The fixed state here is the trust the Greeks put in (or the obedience to) the oaths and treaties, and it is ...
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Best "scholarly" edition of the Iliad

Van Thiel's edition has relatively large margins. It has also the advantage that the whole Iliad fits in one volume. Also, some "heretics" still think it's the most reliable scholarly edition at present. (But for a scholarly edition, I would personnally recommend West)

OK, Paul, I take that as a direct and personal slap in the face. Choose your weapon.

West's testimonia (quotations from ancient authors that what how the text read in antiquity) and ...

Free access to Oxford Bibliographies

For 2 more days, OUP is offering free access to their online products -- at least Oxford Bibliographies, I don't know if there's anything else of interest there you can access. It's possible to save bibliographies to your own computer for further reference (I printed as PDF, I don't know if there's an easier way).

When to use -que, et, ac or atque


I have noticed for example that -que is commonly used when an author is making an enumeration of things. I wonder if you know of any ancient or old sources, in which this question is being discussed?
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Where do you write your notes?

At the moment I use a sturdy notebook. However, as my notes grow less numerous it would be nice to just scribble them in the sideline. I have this vision of one day being able to (re)read Homer in my comfy chair or sitting in the sun. Having just one book with text + notes would be more handy in that case than using a seperate notebook (not to mention the wide array of books ...

Perfect participles -- Xenophon's Symposium

I happened to pick up Xenophon's Symposium, and I noticed that in the opening sections, there are a number of perfect participles. I thought it might be helpful to copy the text and an English translation with a short explanation of the perfect participles (and some other perfects) -- so that you can see why they're not aorists, i.e., to show how they emphasize a present state, rather than simply an action that occurred before ...
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Common pronunciation errors for Anglophones

I am a native speaker of English (I grew up in Alberta, to locate the accent more exactly) and there are a few issues that I try to pay attention to when I pronounce Greek. For instance, I try to avoid lengthening short vowels in open syllables, and to not voice sigmas between vowels (but I do voice them before voiced consonants). Getting the aspiration right in stops is hard (tau and theta, phi and ...
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Using Latin Series

Using Latin is a series of three books which takes the student from basic grammar(not just Latin but English as well) to longer and more difficult stories plus there is a plethora of illustrations. I used the first book myself back in the 60s when I was a freshman in high school. I always thought these books gave a good balance between the grammar and real reading experience as opposed to many books today which ...
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Editions of the Odyssey

Which editions of the Odyssey would you recommend? What do you think about this one of Oxford (that is free)? https://archive.org/stream/homersodysseyed00homegoog

frequency of perfect participles

Without (yet) having the benefit of getting this information through reading (to be done), I would like to ask:

In the sentences of this kind: "Having come to the city, I entered a shop." or "Having knocked, the door opened." would you expect frequently the participle of perfect in the Attic Greek? I know that logically it should be here (because this is exactly how would one describe the perfect: it fits the definition), but ...
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