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Toward a catalogue of ships in Linear B

I'm looking for feedback on a project to take Linear B beyond the material evidence. Before extending the exercise to include epitaphs and formulaic phrases I'm asking myself is this wasted effort? The premise is that if Linear B is Greek it can be extended to write poetry and history. All that's needed is more and better words.

https://www.academia.edu/37181223/Linear_B_-_Towards_a_Catalogue_of_Ships_in_an_excursion_beyond_the_evidence

I've just read Rob Wiseman's paper 'A Mycenaean Iliad' and am in awe of the exquisite ...
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Hello world.

Hello - I'm Peter, a UK retiree currently living in Surrey. On first reading the Odyssey, over 30 years ago, I decided to visit as many places as possible mentioned by Homer, a journey that continues and which has taken me to Greek and particularly Crete, Anatolia and Toscana for extended periods. Aside from a passion for Homeric geography I am largely self-taught in ancient Greek despite attending classes at Birkbeck College and UCL in ...
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Charmides 160

Εἶτα, ἦν δ᾿ ἐγώ, οὐ καλὸν ἄρτι ὡμολόγεις τὴν σωφροσύνην εἶναι;
Πάνυ γ᾿, ἔφη.
Οὐκοῦν καὶ ἀγαθοὶ ἄνδρες οἱ σώφρονες;
Ναί.
Ἆρ᾿ οὖν ἂν εἴη ἀγαθόν, ὃ μὴ ἀγαθοὺς ἀπεργάζεται;
Οὐ δῆτα.
Οὐ μόνον οὖν ἄρα καλόν, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀγαθόν ἐστιν.
Ἔμοιγε δοκεῖ.


For the logical conclusion that he draws from this to make sense, I would have expected something like "Is there anything that is not good that produces good men?" which I guess ...
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Εὐρώταν Greek Anthology 5.60

This was posted at Laudator Temporis Acti

Παρθένος ἀργυρόπεζος ἐλούετο, χρύσεα μαζῶν
χρωτὶ γαλακτοπαγεῖ μῆλα διαινομένη·
πυγαὶ δ᾽ ἀλλήλαις περιηγέες εἱλίσσοντο,
ὕδατος ὑγροτέρῳ χρωτὶ σαλευόμεναι·
τὸν δ᾽ ὑπεροιδαίνοντα κατέσκεπε πεπταμένη χεὶρ
οὐχ ὅλον Εὐρώταν, ἀλλ᾽ ὅσον ἠδύνατο.

Like everybody else, I guess, I was puzzled by Εὐρώταν. But maybe Denys Page says everything that can be said about it:

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Wanted: Dedicated Proof Listener for Reading of Anabasis

I'll be recording the Anabasis on Librivox and I need somebody to join Librivox to be a dedicated proof listener. The requirements to be a PL or DPL are spelled out here. Only Standard Proof-listening is required.
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Longus 1.14.2 Does καὶ γὰρ mean "just like"?

Can καὶ γὰρ mean "just like", or am I approaching these two wrongly
The question arises while reading:

Longus 1.14.2 wrote:Πόσοι βάτοι με ἤμυξαν, καὶ οὐκ ἔκλαυσα: πόσαι μέλιτται κέντρον ἐνῆκαν, ἀλλὰ ἔφαγον: τουτὶ δὲ τὸ νύττον μου τὴν καρδίαν πάντων ἐκείνων πικρότερον. Καλὸς ὁ Δάφνις, καὶ γὰρ τὰ ἄνθη: καλὸν ἡ σύριγξ αὐτοῦ φθέγγεται, καὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀηδόνες. Ἀλλ̓ ἐκείνων οὐδείς μοι λόγος. Εἴθε αὐτοῦ σύριγξ ἐγενόμην, ἵν̓ ἐμπνέῃ μοι:
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Longus 1.14 2 τουτὶ τὸ νύττον noun or articular participle?

Is it possible for an articular participle to be used with a demonstrative, or is this necessarily a noun?

The question arises while reading:

Longus 1.14.2 wrote:Πόσοι βάτοι με ἤμυξαν, καὶ οὐκ ἔκλαυσα: πόσαι μέλιτται κέντρον ἐνῆκαν, ἀλλὰ ἔφαγον: τουτὶ δὲ τὸ νύττον μου τὴν καρδίαν πάντων ἐκείνων πικρότερον. Καλὸς ὁ Δάφνις, καὶ γὰρ τὰ ἄνθη: καλὸν ἡ σύριγξ αὐτοῦ φθέγγεται, καὶ γὰρ αἱ ἀηδόνες. Ἀλλ̓ ἐκείνων οὐδείς μοι λόγος. Εἴθε αὐτοῦ σύριγξ ἐγενόμην, ἵν̓ ἐμπνέῃ ...


διαπαρατριβή vs. παραδιατριβή 1 Tim.6:5

What's the story with διαπαρατριβή vs. παραδιατριβή?

Are they the same word in different forms or different word?
Was it simply a transcription error on Stephanus (1550)'s part?
Was Stephanus a classical scholar, with more freedom to emmend the text, or was he part or a precursor to the modern quest for the original text?

Is there validity in analysing the mechamical morphology as δια "constant, over a long time" added to παρατριβή "friction" and ...


"Continuing beginner" question

Hello,

I've introduced myself on the Open Board; in a nutshell: I've had an elementary course based on reading Greek, not writing, grammar hasn't stuck in my head, so I'm slowly working through Carl Ruck's "Ancient Greek". It looks as if I'm in a minority on this board, as a beginner, and I hope you'll tolerate elementary questions like this.

I have learnt nominative and accusative cases, and present indic. act verbs. I'm on the ...
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New member

Hello all,

I did 2 years of Greek at school and enjoyed it. I've been reading various translations of Homer over the years (admiring the Iliad and thoroughly enjoying the Odyssey). I retired from full-time work some years ago, and recently learnt about an excellent adult-education class in ancient Greek in Bristol UK, and took it for three terms, a weekly class of 90 minutes with homework taking an hour or two. Occasionally three. The ...
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