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Symposium 209b

I'm quoting this partly for the distinction that Dover makes between the ει of the manuscript and ῃ of the papyrus, but also because he didn't convince me on ᾔθεος. 206c6 is good enough for me to support θεῖος and Dover's objection about "...implying that the fertile in body are not" strikes me as a quibble. Plato's logic, as Dover has shown, doesn't try to be that tight.

τούτων δ’ αὖ ὅταν τις ἐκ νέου ...
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Quid fecisti hodie?

Simile foro "How is the weather today?", loquamur de rebus quas facimus cotidie.

Temptemus habere sermonem frequenter ad exercitandum latinam nostram!

Hodie lectiones spectavi in universitate, una de semantica, id est, de variis significationibus possibilibus verborum, et altera de didactica litterarum. Utrae optimae, mihi valde placuerunt.

Et vos, amici, quid fecistis hodie?
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The Bees in Virgil's Georgics IV

Hi Everyone

This is my very first foray into the world of Latin here, please excuse my nerves.

I am doing Honours in Latin and my tutor and I (just me - no one else is enrolled this term) are reading Books 3 and 4 of Virgil's Georgics. I have to write a 3000 word paper on a topic of my choosing and I am not particularly good at writing literature essays. After wading through ...
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Poesiae latinae

Salvete, carissimi!

Qui sunt vestri praelati poetae latini?

Scribitisne quoque poesias vestras? Si scribitis, in latinam aut alteram linguam facitis?

Ostendete nobis opera vestra, si habetis.
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In Classical Latin, "tu" is singular and "vos" is plural, absolutely, and polite use of "vos" as singular had not yet started. But when writing in Latin to people who speak Romance languages descended from Latin and having pronouns similar to "tu" and "vos", and are accustomed to "tu" being intimate/familiar/condescending in their own languages, are any of them likely to dislike being addressed as "tu" in Latin?

During World War 2 there was a ...
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Athenaze Composition Exercises

I've been trying to get in the habit of studying Greek more regularly again. I have been reading the Italian Athenaze and using the English version for the composition exercises. Feel free to be as thorough as possible in critiquing my composition. All corrections are welcome: syntax, idiom, spelling. Moreover, if you're feeling over-ambitious, give your own alternate translation to mine. It's helpful for understanding the structure of Ancient Greek to see the different (correct) ...
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incorporation and attraction

Dickey, Chapter 8, states that "if antecedent and relative pronoun are in different cases and cannot be brought into the same case by attraction, incorporation is not possible" (p. 86); which is why, according to her, "I love the general who was conquered" cannot be translated as "ἐρῶ οὗ ἐνικήθη στρατηγοῦ" but only as "ἐρῶ τοῦ στρατηγοῦ ὃς ἐνικήθη" (p. 229: "incorporation not possible because case difference cannot be resolved by attraction").
Yet on p. ...
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Prendergast's Mastery Series (Latin): Q&A


I found sentence 43 of Prendergast's The Mastery Series: Latin somewhat surprising:

Prendergast wrote:My angry friend has hastened in order that he may chastise the messenger of thy uncle.
Amicus meus iratus properavit ut nuntium patrui tui castiget.

Considering that the main sentence has a secondary tense, I expected the verb of the dependent clause to be in the imperfect subjunctive (ut...castigaret). Why present subjunctive instead? According to A&G it is possible, but ...
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Adler Exercises: (slightly) updated version


a Textkit-user was so kind as to point out an error in my transcription (actually in a sentence I added, obviously a tad too hastily):

Exercise 2:

WRONG: "ADDED: Taeniam tuam pulchram habeo (Mihi est taenia tua pulchra mihi est)."
CORRECT: "ADDED: Taeniam tuam pulchram habeo (Taenia tua pulchra mihi est)"

I uploaded corrected versions (including ANKI and fortune-file) to my homepage.


Carolus Raeticus
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Symposium 205a

Plato: ταύτην δὴ τὴν βούλησιν καὶ τὸν ἔρωτα τοῦτον πότερα κοινὸν οἴει εἶναι πάντων ἀνθρώπων, καὶ πάντας τἀγαθὰ βούλεσθαι αὑτοῖς εἶναι ἀεί, ἢ πῶς λέγεις;

Dover: πάντας τἀγαθὰ βούλεσθαι αὑτοῖς εἶναι ἀεί, where, although a Greek reader would be bound to say (if asked) that ἀεί goes with βούλεσθαι (as it does with ἐρῶσι in b1), the collocation εἶναι ἀεί is meant to lodge in our minds and reduce the likelihood of our objecting to ...
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