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Response to Paul D. from the Demosthenes thread

Paul D. wrote the following in the thread on Demosthenes' De Corona:

The gap between the preserved text and the speech as actually delivered is a interesting question. Isn't it similar in many respects to the question of how the Homeric epics were written down? (Personally, I don't believe that the Homeric epics are somehow magically different from all the other ancient texts, just because they were "oral". As if everything weren't more or less ...

Sophocles OT 592-93 ἔφυ future aorist?

Sophocles OT 592-93
Πῶς δῆτ' ἐμοὶ τυραννὶς ἡδίων ἔχειν
ἀρχῆς ἀλύπου καὶ δυναστείας ἔφυ;

The syntax here is difficult for me in several respects. The general idea is comparing the relative merits of being the king with having authority and benefits of royalty without the hassles of being the actual monarch. Creon poses the question with Πῶς δῆτ' a note of irony or perhaps indignation. The comparative ἡδίων with the infinitive ἔχειν and ...
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ut esset quem plebs

I'm a it perplexed by the use of the word quem in this sentence from Cap XLII of Oberg's LLPSI. Livy (adapted by Orberg) is explaining how King Numa gave, placed his son-in-law in charge of all public and private rites / ceremonies.

Cetera quoque omnia publica privataque sacra pontifici mandavit, ut esset quem plebs consuleret, ne ritus neglegerentur.

Also all of the remaining public and private ceremonies he placed in in the hands ...
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Vancouver says hello

I'm new to learning Latin and I'm planning on doing ancient Greek, too. I've studied French and German at the university level, though I didn't graduate. I've also done some Irish Gaelic on my own - Dia seo isteach! Lastly I'll say that I'm a Newfie living in Vancouver, BC and am looking forward to learning from everyone here at Textkit.
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Ἐκ τοῦ βιβλίου τῶν ἡμερῶν μου

Τετελεύτηκα τὴν ἀνάγνωσιν ῥᾳδίαν τε καὶ ἐπιτηδείαν ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Ξενοφῶντος Ἀναβάσεως

Θάλαττα, θάλαττα, βοῶσιν οἱ Ἕλληνες.

Πολλοὶ μαθηταὶ ἐν πάσῃ τῇ οἰκουμένῃ μανθάνουσιν τὴν Ἑλληνικὴν ἀναγιγνώσκοντες τὴν τοῦ Ξενοφῶντος Ἀνάβασιν. Αὕτη μὲν ἡ βίβλος ῥᾳδίων ἐστὶ τοῖς νέοις μαθηταῖς ἢ ἄλλαι γραφαὶ ἐν τῇ Ἀττικῇ διαλέκτῳ γεγραμμέναι, χαλεπωτέρα δὲ ὥστε τὸ μὴ τὴν ἠχωγραφὴν αὐτῆς συνιέναι. Διὰ τοῦτο ἄμεινόν ἐστι τοῖς ἀρχομένοις γε ἀκούειν τὴν ἀνάγνωσιν ῥᾳδίαν τε καὶ ἐπιτηδείαν, ἣν ἐνταῦθα ...
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οἴκοι - οἴκαδε - οἴκοθεν

οἴκοι – at home
οἴκαδε – (to) home
οἴκοθεν – from home

I never have a chance to use the adverbial forms of οἶκος in my online Greek communication, so I figured I’d open up this thread to use the words above. Feel free to add your own sentences and to improve on what I’ve written.

πάντα τὸν πόνον τελευτῆσας καὶ οἴκαδε ἐλθών, οἴκοι ἔμεινα πᾶσαν τὴν ἡμέραν μανθάνων τὴν ἑλληνικὴν γλῶτταν.
Having finished all ...
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Present Active Participle of εἰμί

An old question just popped up in my mind, and it first came cross to me when I was being taught the various forms of εἰμί; it's the apparent and inexplicable irregularity of the present active participle of εἰμί. I was using the Hansen and Quinn, but the book contained no explanation as to the origin of this alien formation, other than that it "is irregular". The book mentions that all forms of εἰμί are ...
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Requisite Introduction

Hi, members of Textkit:

I'm currently studying Greek and Latin in university. I hope that I'll find lots of help from kind members on this forum, and I welcome criticism for all my ideas that I post.

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Gen 1:2 LXX significance of δὲ

Gen. 1:1 Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἐποίησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν. 2 ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ἀόρατος καὶ ἀκατασκεύαστος, καὶ σκότος ἐπάνω τῆς ἀβύσσου, καὶ πνεῦμα θεοῦ ἐπεφέρετο ἐπάνω τοῦ ὕδατος. 3 καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεός Γενηθήτω φῶς. καὶ ἐγένετο φῶς.

Why δὲ in ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ... but καὶ σκότος and καὶ πνεῦμα θεοῦ? The waw + noun in the the assumed vorlage where the only difference is the presence or ...

Found: Latin-(Greek)-English index of plants and trees


Today I happened upon this nice document: a list of the names of about 1000 plants and trees in Latin, English and often Greek, alphabetical by Latin name. I can't speak to its accuracy, but it looks useful. (I hope I'm not the only one who struggles to no end with plant names!)

Link: Index Herbarum. (Rehosted for ease of download.)

(The original, titled "Indice-Piante", I found on Scribd. No author is listed, nor ...
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