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'Core' Latin Curriculum

I just came up with an interesting question: if you were to design a 'core' Latin curriculum for high school students which includes the most essential Latin authors, who would you include, and what works would be chosen for them? Also, would you prefer a curriculum which includes a range of authors, or one which focuses on a few authors?

In the past, AP Latin Literature allowed teachers to choose among three pairs of authors: ...
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Unabridged Latin texts with notes

Hi everyone, where can an intermediate Latin learner like me find unabridged Latin texts with notes and commentaries explaining literary style AND grammar? There are many Latin readers which aim at intermediate students, but I hope to find unabridged texts instead of a range of selections. In particular, I am looking for the twelve books of Ovid's Metamorphoses (Oklahoma Classical Series's only includes 10 books and there is too little explanation on grammar) and Amores ...
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need help on parsing "quae"

Seneca, de ira, book one, chapter 9.

Seneca argues that force should be controlled in war by a reasoning mind, not by anger at the enemy.

Quotiens impetu opus est, non irascitur sed exsurgit et in quantum putavit opus esse concitatur remittiturque, non aliter quam quae tormentis exprimuntur tela in potestate mittentis sunt in quantum torqueantur.

Translation: Whenever there is need of violent force, it does not grow angry; instead it rises ...
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plebs premebantur

The notes in my textbook explain the reason for using a singular noun with a plural verb(collective noun used with a plural verb because the verb implies that the people were individually affected). Would the plural form of the noun be appropriate if two or more mutually exclusive communities or populations were the subject?
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Adler: possible errors


I am currently correcting some errors (most of my own) in my transcription of Adler's Exercises. I have two questions.

1. In Exercise 160 Adler writes:

  • Let us imitate the best and wisest among men.
  • Immitemus optimos et sapientissimos humani generis (or inter homines).
In my opinion it should read Imitemur (only 1 "m" plus it is a deponent verb, according to L&S). However, in his textbook (on page 559) Adler provides the ...
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"Rebilius Cruso" at Gutenberg.org


I just stumbled upon an only recently finished (December 20, 2015) transcription of a novel in Latin:

"REBILIUS CRUSO, in Latin--a book to lighten tedium to a learner" by Francis William Newman (1884)

It was transcribed by one Mark C. Orton and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team. Hats off to them! I did not know that they proofread Latin texts as well. Cool!

The book does not seem to be a translation of Daniel ...
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Give us this day our supersubstantial bread

I’ve only recently discovered that Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, “Give us this day our daily bread” (Mt.6:11), is not the Vulgate version as till now I’d assumed it was. Instead of quotidianum the Vulgate has supersubstantialem. (And I know why, but never mind that.) So if only the Church had adopted the Vulgate (as it did everywhere else but here?), Christians would be praying “Give us this day our supersubstantial bread.”

For the ...
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negative imperatives

I understand that ne plus perfect subjunctive can be used for negative commands. On one occasion I saw the present subjunctive used. Does this indicate some nuance of meaning?
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modifiers and other things embedded in a Latin phrase

Does anyone have any good strategies for learning/teaching the skill of reading and understanding in a natural way a Latin phrase that has modifiers or other words embedded in it? For example:

Caesar, Civil Wars:
Reliquiae copiae missis ad Varum noctu legatorum numero centurionibus sese ei dediderunt.
"The remaining troops, having been sent to Varus by night of envoys with the rank centurions, surrendered themselves to him."
i.e., centurions having been sent to Varus by ...
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Beginning with Latin Prose Composition


In a different thread the question was raised how to gain a more active command of the Latin language. I suggested turning to a book about Latin prose composition, and feeling that this topic deserves its own thread, voilà.

I am myself facing this exact problem, namely that I would like to be able to actually use Latin, at least a bit, with improving my reading skills as an important benefit.

Learning Latin prose ...
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