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Verb "rorare"

Virgil in the Georgics etc writes plenty about goatkeeping, including using "rorare" to mean "of a goat, to produce milk". Am I right in assuming that that is a poetic use only? Is "rorare" in prose a weather-type impersonal verb only: "rorat" = "dew is falling"? Or what?

From across the water in Greece I have heard of a normal verb having a weather-type impersonal usage: σείει = "it shakes", "there is an earthquake".
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prius....quam

Adeoque ea subita res fuit ut prius Anienem transirent hostes quam obviam ire ac prohibere exercitus Romanus posset.

I'm taking it that prius.....quam in this sentence are related?

As so often happens to me in Latin the sentence seems upon first looking at it to mean exactly the opposite of what it means. As in before the enemy could cross the romans were able to stop them... but it means that they were able to ...
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sunt quibus

The expression sunt qui I recall learning from basic grammar. But yesterday I encountered sunt quibus, and only after checking a translation did I see that it meant "there are those to/by/from whom", just as one might expect of the dative/ablative plural.

I did not recall this usage. So my question is, does this occur regularly with all the cases of the relative pronoun? It could be that this is one of ...
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Targuinius persuades the Romans to elect him king

This from Orberg's adapted Livy (LLPSI).

Tarquinius has given a speech explaining why he should be the next king, recounting his learning of Roman rituals and laws.

Haec eum haud falsa memorantem ingenti consensu populus Romanus regnare iussit.


There is a translation of this in Perseus which goes: "While he was recounting these undoubted facts, the people by a great majority elected him king. "

Is a more literal translation

The people of Rome ...
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non inopia loci

Orberg (adapted Livy) is describing how, after the war with the Latini, the Romans are absorbing them into the city.

Ianiculum quoque urbi adiectum, non inopia loci, sed ne quando ea arx hostium esset. Id ponte Sublicio, tum primum in Tiberi facto, urbi coniunctum est.

I'm interested in the phrase non inopia loci. inopia is ablative and loci is genitive singular.

not for (reasons of) shortage of space but so that no enemy citidel should ...
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"verse only" Latin words

Please, is there a list of Latin words which occur in the best poets but should not be used in prose?
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Translation help - adapting Virgil

There is a sentence in the Aeneid, describing the fall of Troy that goes as follows:

at domus interior gemitu miseroque tumultu
miscetur, penitusque cauae plangoribus aedes
femineis ululant; ferit aurea sidera clamor ( Book II, 486-8)

The translation is:

But inside all was confusion and lamentation, and deep into the house the hollow chambers rang with the wailing of women, and their cries rose to strike the golden stars. (David West, Penguin).

I am ...
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Fieri solebat

Fieri solebat ut fetialis hastam ferratam sanguineam ad fines eorum ferret et — non minus tribus puberibus praesentibus — diceret: "Quod populus Latinus hominesque Latini adversus populum Romanum Quiritium fecerunt, deliquerunt, quod populus Romanus Quiritium bellum cum Latinis iussit esse senatusque populi Romani Quiritium censuit, consensit, conscivit ut bellum cum Latinis fieret, ob eam rem ego populusque Romanus populo Latino hominibusque Latinis bellum indico facioque!"

I'm interested in the phrase Fieri solebat.

Two questions:

1) ...
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need help Fabula Syrae Atalanta

I cant follow the gist of this passage
Ad capitulum XXVIII 1.Atalanta
10th paragraph
cīvēs vērō et ipse atalantae pater cursūs quī solēbant fierī poscēbant, neque moram patiēbantur
It seems like a jigsaw puzzle to me..
thank you in advance
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Orberg XXXVII

I'm just checking to make sure I have the use of the gerundive in line 38 Cap. XXXVII of Roma Aeterna squared away:

Alli donum Graecorum suspectum in mare praecipitandum et flammis urendum esse censebat.

My translation: Others were considering throwing the suspicious gift in the sea and burning it with flames.


Now, I know the gerundive acts in similarity to a future passive participle, but in Familia Romana there wasn't a lot of practice ...
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