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13th-century English court hand transcription question #2

Hello all :) Thank you for all the help with my last question. This next question is primarily about case endings and mostly does not require any knowledge of paleography. In the excerpt below the strange punctuation is because I copied exactly what the scribe wrote. Many of the words are abbreviated and almost none of them have any case endings given. I had written the letters ...
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Tacitus, Dialogue on Oratory, ch. 12

context: how humans first accepted eloquence and poetry

haec eloquentiae primordia, haec penetralia; hoc primum habitu cultuque commoda mortalibus in illa casta et nullis contacta vitiis pectora influxit: sic oracula loquebantur.


Translation: These are the first-beginnings of eloquence, these the inner sanctum. With this dress and allure, enticing to mortals, eloquence infused simple hearts, as yet untouched by vices: to such the oracles used to speak.

Problems:

commoda . . . mortalibus: commoda, ...
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Quaestio rara de dictionariis interretialibus

Salvete,

Quaestionem raram habeo vobis: Scitne aliquis vestrum quomodo possim per dictionaria interretialia quaerere vocabula cum terminationibus specificis? E.g., volo invenire omnes voces quae exeunt in -atio. Gratias vobis!

So, I've got a strange question. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to search through online dictionaries (or offline dictionaries) for words that have specific endings. For example, I'd like to be able to find all words that end in -atio. Thanks!
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Future periphrastic

After some time procrastinating, resting, and reading some Horace and the Anabasis, I've started on Pro Caelio. It's pretty readable so far but I've encountered an unfamiliar construction in the second section: "descensurum fuisse" and "habiturum fuisse". i was familiar with the future periphrastic before just as the way to form subjunctive futures while this future periphrastic is new to me; here the notes translated the terms as "would have stooped (to this accusation)" and ...
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Ubi ponendus est accentus?

Salvete amici,

In qua syllaba ponitur accentus in his vocibus: sorbillo et cantillo. Debentne pronuntiari sórbillo (cántillo) aut sorbíllo (cantíllo)? Nescio quid agam cum isto duplici l.

Gratias ago.
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Latin verse

How many people nowadays learn how to write Latin verse, and suchlike? I work from this book:-

Latin Hexameter Verse
by Samuel Edward Wilbolt
First published 1903
ISBN 0-8240-2982-8

It has pages i to xiv and 1 to 266
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As regards the quality of Latin hexameter verse written down the centuries, for example, http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/latinlibrary/scacchia.html
is a poem written by Hieronymus Vida in 1559 about chess.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFssa.

For example, these lines

Tum geminae velut ...
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quem primum

Orberg : LLPSI Cap XLIV. Rex maiores interrogat:

Confestim rex his ferme verbis patres consulebat: "De iis rebus quas legatus populi Romani Quiritium a Latinis repetivit, quas res nec dederunt nec solverunt nec fecerunt, quas res dari, solvi, fieri oportuit, dic" inquit ei quem primum sententiam rogabat. "quid censes?"

Two questions:

1) Are dederunt, solverunt, fecerunt used here for effect ? They all appear to mean roughly the same thing. 'our land is not given, ...
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Personal pronouns in the vocative

In Orberg LLPSI Cap. XLIV the legate who is sent to demand satisfaction from the Latini: is qui fines legatus, ad res repetendas, Latinis dicit: "Audi, Iuppiter, et tu, Iane Quirine, dique omnes caelestes vosque terrestres vosque inferni, audite: ego vos testor populum iniustum esse neque ius persolvere!"

I'm not sure about a couple of things:

1) My sense of this is that he is directly addressing every authority in sight - covering all the ...
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Cross-post: "Please HELP! Ilias, Odyssea et al."

Hello!

I am creating public domain versions of Latin translations of "Homer"'s works for Project Gutenberg. I have transcribed and proofread the Latin text of:

- Ilias
- Odyssea
- Ranarum et Murium Pugna
- Hymni vel Exordia
- Epigrammata

I need help to decide whether in some instances there is a typo in the original text, and if yes, whether I am correctly guessing the answer.

I have posted the actual questions on the ...
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Differentiating male and female Dat. and Abl

Salvete!

My understanding is that with Filius/Filia (Son/Daughter) the use of 'Filiabus' is used in the dative and ablative plural to differentiate it from the masculine 'filiis'.

However what happens to other nouns like Discipulus/Discipula? For both of these the dative and ablative plural is discipulis For example a sentence such as "discipulis pecuniam do"; how do you know if the students are male or female? :? ...
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