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Elementa Linguae et Grammaticae Latinae

Qui vestrum hic in foro audivit de libro qui Elementa Linguae et Grammaticae Latinae inscribitur? Huius auctor libri, Cletus Pavanetto, quondam commentarios Latinos Latinitas prodeuntes e Civitate Vaticana curabat.

Liber, qui nunc est in sexta editione, praecepta regulasque linguae Latinae docet sermone Romanorum utendo. In situ interretiale Amazon, video hunc librum maximi pretii vendi. Nolo pendere mille dollaria, miror tamen si liber optimus sit.
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Ways to say "said"


while looking for word lists in English (to use as inspiration for Latin) I encountered the excellent set of word lists at EnchantedLearning.com. One of these lists especially caught my attention. It has the title Ways to Say "Said". Looking at it was an eye-opener. I knew that I was still a beginner when it comes to Latin, but this list really drove the message home (like a baseball bat swung really, really hard). ...
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Oratio in Catilinam Tertia

Section 10. The letter to Catiline urging him to bring his army to Rome and for the Allobroges to bring their cavalry, having been intercepted at the Mulvian Bridge, is being read to the conspirators in the Senate.

Hanc autem Cethego cum ceteris controversiam fuisse dixerunt quod Lentulo et aliis Saturnalibus caedem fieri atque urbem incendi placeret, Cethego nimium id longum videretur.

("(The Allobroges) said, however, that this dispute was between Cethegus and the others ...
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Strange automatic (Google) translations

I put Google's autotranslater into English to Latin mode, and input

the cat said "miaow".

and it translated that as

Catus ait, "meteorologistus".

It looks like that Google's autotranslater needs more teaching here.
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rettuli vs. retuli


Does anyone have an idea where the first of these two forms, rettuli, comes from? I think rettuli is quite strange, and the extra t between the prepositional re- and the perfect stem tuli- is a bit weird. The fact is that a dictionary actually says that rettuli is the normal form, and can also be written as retuli!

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Question about use of perfect/ imperfect

I'm using Henle (a very old fashioned course from the forties) to revive what's left of the Latin I learned at school. In Henle's second year Latin is the following English to Latin translation exercise:

Caesar often burned the towns which he had taken
My translation: Caesar oppida quae capiebat (alternatively occupabat) saepe incendebat.
The answer key gives: Caesar oppida quae ceperat saepe incendit.


The mountains across which Caesar often led his forces separate ...
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Genitive of Characteristic?`

I'm reading through portions of the Latin Vulgate, and came to this sentence in the Epistle to the Hebrews, 10:25:

Teneamus spei nostrae confessionem indeclinabliem, fidelis enim est qui repromisit, et consideremus invicem in provocationem caritatis et bonorum operum, non deserentes collectionem nostram, sicut est consuetudinis quibusdam.

Everything seems pretty straightforward, until the last clause. I wasn't sure why consuetudinis was in the genitive (it's not a literal translation of the underlying Greek, for instance). ...
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Relative clause or indirect question?

When translating from English to Latin or Greek, I developed a "rule of thumb" to distinguish relative clause from indirect question: Before the apparent relative word ("where", "who", "when", etc), insert the words "the answer to the question". If the result (apart from sounding officialese or interrogationish) makes grammatical sense and has the same meaning as the original, it is an indirect question. How accurate would such a rule be?
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Some 17th century mathematics

I'm in the middle of translating a piece of academic mathematics from the mid 17th century. Everything has gone very well so far with one exception, the following passage:

item quod necessaria fit ad minimum talis generis curuae ad mechanicam talium aequationum resolutionem cum talibus innumeris

I'm not sure if I am missing some technical detail here, maybe some specific mathematical usage I'm not familiar with, but it really doesn't look like it should be ...
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...inter verba et cruciatus

From Orberg LLPSI Cap XLIII: the Horatius' father defends him against a charge of treason (for taking the law into his own hands and killing his sister) and pleads directly to the people

Inter haec senex iuvenem amplexus, spolia Curiatiorum fixa eo loco qui nunc 'Pila Horatia' appellatur ostentans, "Huncine" aiebat "quem modo decoratum ovantemque victoria incedentem vidistis, Quirites, eum vinctum inter verbera et cruciatus videre potestis?

In the meanwhile (as he was speaking)..the old ...
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