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Vos tamen cum...

Vos tamen cum viris Romanis in matrimonio eritis, in societate fortunarum omnium et - quo nihil carius est generi humano - liberorum.

Romulus addresses the Sabine women here. A couple of questions:

1) in societate fortunarum omnium would mean something like 'in society of the greatest fortune'.

I've a feeling I asked this before on the site but can't see it - so apologies if I did. ...
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per domos

In Cap XLII of LLPSI Orberg has (from Livy) the following:

Invitati hospitaliter per domos, cum situm moeniaque et frequentia urbis tecta vidissent, mirantur tam brevi rem Romanam crevisse.

What is per domos saying here?

a) received into the homes of the Romans?

b) Looking past the homes at the walls and quantity of buildings?
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Just not getting certain passages

I started Book IV in the Bello Gallico and so far, so good. I ran across the tip somewhere on this board to cover the English translation with a notecard to keep from peeking; I had had trouble with wandering eyes and this has helped a lot in keeping myself focused on the Latin when there's no fear of my vision accidentally going too far right and being sucked in by the nice comfortable English. ...
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damno, the offense and the offender

The grammar escapes me.

Context: Procris after hearing rumors (false) about her husband, suffers from "suspicious mind". Tormented by the rumor, she still doesn't want to believe it.

Metamorphoses, book 7, line 833 f.

indicioque fidem negat et, nisi viderit ipsa,
damnatura sui non est delicta mariti.

she refuses to believe the informer, and unless she has seen
she is not going to believe her husband guilty of the charges.

viderit: ...
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Cum vs. Quum

Quick question for something it's hard to find a ready answer to online, namely the orthographic conventions regarding cum and quum. As far as I can understand from a couple of references, cum was more likely (possibly exclusively) written in Classical Latin. For instance, Allen and Greenough say "u (vowel) after u (consonant) was avoided, writing cum (for quom, very late quum)." In Hale's article "The Art of Reading Latin" (1867), the author ...
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How I bungled a passage

I want to report the problems I had with a passage. Specifying them will help me, and maybe they will help others. Working out these errors was annoying at the beginning, but when I finished I saw the simple, clear meaning. Moreover I had a helpful reminder of some of my weak spots.

Ovid, Metamorphoses, Book VII, line 759 ff.

Carmina Laiades non intellecta priorum
solverat ingeniis, et praecipitata iacebat
immemor ambagum vates obscura suarum; ...
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Siveris Esse - Roma Aeterna XLIV Line 32

Si ego iniuste impieque illos homines illasque res dedi mihi exposco, tum patriae compotem me numquam siveris esse! If I demand unjustly and impiously that those men and those things be surrendered to me, then let me never enjoy my native land.

Assuming siveris esse is subjunctive, what kind of a subjunctive is it?
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What language is it in the lyrics of "serenata immortale"

In the song of serenata immortale, the lyrics is like this:

La flama fortuna
La terra murmure
Un coro
Cantara mysterie
Dono dono dono gracia
Dono dono adoro
Dono dono infinatia
Dono dono adoro
La flama riposa
La ombra dispare
La dolce immortale
La voce murmure
Dono dono dono gracia
Dono dono adoro
Dono dono infinatia
Dono dono adoro

In the internet, some people say it is Latin. I don't quite ...
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Iudicum 3:16

qui fecit sibi gladium ancipitem habentem in medio capulum longitudinis palmae manus . . .

And he made himself a two-edged sword, with a haft in the midst of the length of the palm of the hand . . .

What exactly does "with a haft in the midst of the length of the palm of the hand" mean? Any alternate translations that might make sense? Thanks!
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First post about me

Hi everyone!

This is my first post on this forum. From what I understand, I must do a sort of intro to myself to show that I'm not a spammer and that I actually have an interest in Latin. If I'm going about this totally wrong, I apologise.

Or apologize. Depending on what continent you're in.

Anyway, I'm a high school junior who is in First Year Henle Latin. (It's actually my third year in ...
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