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Understanding Virtual Indirect Discourse

I've run across this construction in several grammars, under different names (partial obliquity, virtual oratio obliqua, informal indirect discourse). I understand that the gist of it is that subordinate clauses with a subjunctive verb can be used to express the thoughts/speech of someone other than the writer. But am I also correct in conceiving of this construction as merely an extension of subordinate clauses in indirect discourse? That is to say, to the Latin mind, ...
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liberos=children?

pater liberos suos amat, the father loves his children.

Why is liberos=children?
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Deinde, a paucis initio facto

Deinde, a paucis initio facto, universi Romulum 'deum deo natum, regem parentemque urbis Romanae' salvere iubent.

Later, having begun with a few, all hailed Romulus 'a god born from the gods, the king and father of the Roman city.
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terrae (pl) (Oberg LLPSI Cap XLII)

His immortalibus perfectis operibus, cum Romulus contionem militum in campo Martio haberet, subito coorta tempestas cum magno fragore tonitribusque tam denso nimbo regem operuit ut conspectum eius militibus abstulerit. Nec deinde in terris Romulus fuit.

Nonne terrae (pl.) = universus orbis? ...orbis terrarium...
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Best Order to Use LLPSI Readers and Supplements?

Hello all,

I am looking for advice on the best order to use the supplements and readers designed to accompany the two primary volumes of Lingua Latina. As far as I know, there is no recommended order on the publisher's website, and I have searched the forum for a prior answer to this question, but have been unable to find one. I apologize if there is one and I have overlooked it.

I own the ...
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Non...opponerentur

Ita maximo terrore perculsi Fidenates, prius paene quam Romulus equitesque qui cum eo erant circumagerent equos, terga verterunt atque oppidum repetebant. Non tamen a persequentibus se eripuere : priusquam fores portarum opponerentur, Romani velut uno agmine in oppidum irruperunt.

The second sentence seems to be saying that despite fleeing their pursuers the Fidenates were unable to block the gates to their city before it was invaded by the Romans. ...
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Ita maximo terrore...

Ita maximo terrore perculsi Fidenates, prius paene quam Romulus equitesque qui cum eo erant circumagerent equos, terga verterunt atque oppidum repetebant.

= Romanos timuerunt Fidenates atque Romulus cum equites paene equos eorum circumagerent, ii ad oppidum suum cucurrerunt?
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Simul e castris mota sunt signa eorum

Inde subito exorti Romani in latus hostium impetum faciunt. Simul e castris mota sunt signa eorum qui in praesidio relicti erant.

Signa : Ut vexillaris portarenter? milites?

Orberg id explicat: signa movere = e castris progredi

Inde subito exorti Romani in latus hostium impetum faciunt. Simul e castris mota sunt signa eorum qui in praesidio relicti erant.
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stuck with one sentence

Hi, I am struggling with a text in a book called "38 Latin Stories" which is a companion to Wheelock's. I am an independent student and the text I'm struggling with says it is adapted from Cicero, Brutus 65-70.

I won't type in the whole thing, but there is one sentence which still has me stumped:
= supplied by notes
() supplied by me

Sed ea in notris inscitia est, quod hi ipsi qui ...
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nomina earum ?

Itaque cum populum in curias triginta divideret, nomina earum curiis imposuit.

Accordingly, to divide the population into thirty curia, he placed their names onto the curia...?

All of my attempted translations have a circular feel. What noun is 'earum' standing in for…. whose names? does it mean the pre-existing names of nobles etc. amongst the population… ?
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