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Catullus, 30.4-6


I started this week reading Trappes-Lomax, Catullus: A textual reappraisal, and I got obsessed with this passage from c. 30:

iam me prodere, iam non dubitas fallere, perfide?
nec facta impia fallacum hominum caelicolis placent,
quae tu neglegis et me miserum deseris in malis. 5
eheu quid faciant, dic, homines cuive habeant fidem?

The first problem that editors find is that nec makes little sense here, for it is expected to be balanced with ...
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Teaching Latin Well

I've been tutoring students in Latin for a few years, but recently I started teaching Latin full-time. I've always used William G. Most's "Latin by the Natural Method," and moved through the lessons by having students read a sentence, then translate it, encouraging them to read and re-read old passages as often as possible. This is how I was taught.

I have doubts about the effectiveness of the "read-translate" routine. I don't think it actually ...
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400 lines each evening??

Is this credible?

I'm looking at a New Yorker article which says that Matt Patterson while an undergraduate classics major at Columbia University " every night . . . translated four hundred lines of ancient Greek and Latin." (p. 22, July 24, 2017, in article by Peter Hessler, "Follow the Leader".)

Because I'm not doing 400 lines per day of Latin by a long shot, I'm having trouble overcoming skepticism about this claim, especially since ...
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I searched the archives and already found some good discussion on the use of Eutropius. Next year I have a 4th year class (out of 5 years) ready to read selections from Cicero, Ovid, and for the second half of the year either Caesar or Vergil as I prepare that class for the following year's AP course. Every student in this class is a top performer, a couple of them not quite as top performing ...
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Hor. Sat. II. vii. hard sentence.

Context: Davus the slave continues his philosophical interrogation of Horace.

tune mihi dominus, rerum imperiis hominumque
tot tantisque minor, quem ter vindicta quaterque
inposita haud umquam misera formidine privet?

Translation: While you are master to me, aren't you the subordinate to so many authorities ? Even though you have been given your freedom papers three or four times yourself, nothing ever takes away your wretched dread [ ...
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Teaching "Learn to Read Latin"(Keller/Russell) in HS

Dear All,

This is my first post here.

In my capacity as the new (and sole) Latin teacher at my school in suburban NYC area, I've been given the exciting opportunity to revamp our entire Latin curriculum. Students here had been using the Cambridge Latin Course, but I am very interested in switching to Andrew Keller and Stephanie Russell's textbook and workbook set "Learn to Read Latin" as I appreciate a more rigorous grammatical approach ...
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Hor. Sat. II. vii. lines 40-42. Need help on "quod"

Context: Davus a slave, given permission to speak, is pointing to some inconsistencies of Horace, by quoting the imagined criticism of an acquaintance of Horace.

tu cum sis quod ego et fortassis et fortassis nequior, ultro
insectere velut melior verbisque decoris
obvolvas vitium?


While you are no better and maybe worse, wantonly
do you strafe me as if you're better, and you cover up with respectable words
your own vice?

quod: I can't ...
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Roma Aeterna XLI Passive infinitive confusion

The only sentence in this chapter that gives me some confusion is this:

Iam inde ab initio Faustulo spes fuerat regiam stirpem apud se educari...

My direct translation: Now from the beginning there had been a suspicion to Faustulus that he brought up royal stock.

I see the educari is infinitive passive with se, but it then takes the object accusative with regia and stirps. I either translated this wrong or there is a rule ...
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Audio course for reinforcement?


I've been studying Latin for a few months with Orberg's Lingva Latina. I have experience learning languages and since I want more details about grammatical points, I am using Wheelock to fill in the gaps.

I would like to supplement these materials with some kind of audio course that I listen to while I'm driving. Since I am learning on my on, it would be useful to have some audio drills for verb forms, ...
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Carmina Burana

I very much enjoy Carl Orff’s musical work Carmina Burana. Although mostly in medieval Latin, it has one of my favorite Latin phrases: Verum est quod legitur, fronte capillata sed plerumque sequitur occasio calvata. I can’t quite get a literal translation to make sense in English, but I understand it to mean the following: “It is true what is said: 'Though opportunity has hair on its forehead (that can be grasped), it often shows a ...
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