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The word ἐπιούσιος is found in the Lord’s Prayer. Both Matthew 6: 11 and Luke 11: 3 have the exactly same wording “τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον”.

What can we say for certain about ἐπιούσιος—and what is merely air? Can we approach this etymologically from the (feminine) participle of εἶναι? I am given to understand that it’s all but a ἅπαξ λεγόμενον. Why would Luke and Matthew opt to use so rare a word? Or ...
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Is ψευδομαι also deponent in its participle? (Matthew 5:11)

I just read Matthew 5:11, and I have a question about the deponent verb ψευδομαι ("to lie or deceive").

μακάριοί ἐστε ὅταν ὀνειδίσωσιν ὑμᾶς καὶ διώξωσι καὶ εἴπωσι πᾶν πονηρὸν ῥῆμα καθ᾿ ὑμῶν ψευδόμενοι ἕνεκεν ἐμοῦ.

(My translation) Blessed are you when they may reproach you, and persecute you, and say every bad word against you, lying, on account of me.

The verse uses the present middle/passive participle, ψευδόμενοι, to mean "lying" or "deceiving". ...

An Election Day Treat

ἐνίκησεν αὐτὸς σὺν Θεῷ. :D
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A Daylight Savings Time Day Treat

χρόνον νῦν ἔχεις. ποῦ δ' ὁ καιρός;
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γενέσθαι vs. γεννηθῆναι in Galatians 4

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In Galatians 4, it seems that Paul intentionally used γενέσθαι when speaking of Jesus while γεννηθῆναι when talking of Isaac and Ishmael being born of Sarah and Hagar, respectively.

Here are the verses in question:

4:4-5 ὅτε δὲ ἦλθεν τὸ πλήρωμα τοῦ χρόνου, ἐξαπέστειλεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ, γενόμενον ἐκ γυναικός, γενόμενον ὑπὸ νόμον, ἵνα τοὺς ὑπὸ νόμον ἐξαγοράσῃ, ἵνα τὴν υἱοθεσίαν ...
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Acts 15:11

ἀλλὰ διὰ τῆς χάριτος τοῦ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ πιστεύομεν σωθῆναι καθʼ ὃν τρόπον κἀκεῖνοι.

The sermon was on this last week, and I was a bit surprised by the translation of "καθʼ ὃν τρόπον κἀκεῖνοι." I was surprised by the nominative at the end, and I took καθ’ distributively, "each according to his nature, even as they." Needless to say, nobody seems to translate the verse that way, so I must be missing something obvious.
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ἕνεκα | ἕνεκεν marking a purpose clause

ἕνεκα | ἕνεκεν marking a purpose clause

SBLGNT 2Cor 7:12
ἄρα εἰ καὶ ἔγραψα ὑμῖν, οὐχ ἕνεκεν τοῦ ἀδικήσαντος, οὐδὲ ἕνεκεν τοῦ ἀδικηθέντος, ἀλλ᾽ ἕνεκεν τοῦ φανερωθῆναι τὴν σπουδὴν ὑμῶν τὴν ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐνώπιον τοῦ θεοῦ.

NASB 2Cor 7:12
So although I wrote to you, it was not for the sake of the offender nor for the sake of the one offended, but that your earnestness on our behalf might be made ...
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optative in John13:24

been doing johanine text for awhile..
ppl tend to say that it is one of the simplest greek text out there that I agree somehow(but not with the subject matter that is not that simple)
this is my third times reading the whole St John gospel
and if I am allowed to boast, the more I read the more I become familiar with the contents but at the same times new unfamiliarity appears..

at first ...
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Couple of days ago unearthed a 40 year old thesis which gives a snapshot of what was going on in NT linguistics from structuralism to generative grammar. It is written in style which is somewhat more accessible to students in that it was written by a student.

http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hil ... intive.pdf
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Where to go from here


I finished Mounce's Basics of Biblical Greek and am about halfway through Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics and I had a couple questions I was hoping some of you could offer me some advice.

1) For vocabulary, I have been making flash cards and am attempting to learn all the words occurring 20 times or more using Trenchard's Complete Vocabulary Guide but I'm wondering if this is the best way to go about ...
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