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Acts 4:10-11 Luke's use of pronouns

Acts 4:10-11 SBLGNT γνωστὸν ἔστω πᾶσιν ὑμῖν καὶ παντὶ τῷ λαῷ Ἰσραὴλ ὅτι ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῦ Ναζωραίου, ὃν ὑμεῖς ἐσταυρώσατε, ὃν ὁ θεὸς ἤγειρεν ἐκ νεκρῶν, ἐν τούτῳ οὗτος παρέστηκεν ἐνώπιον ὑμῶν ὑγιής. 11 οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ λίθος ὁ ἐξουθενηθεὶς ὑφʼ ὑμῶν τῶν ⸀οἰκοδόμων, ὁ γενόμενος εἰς κεφαλὴν γωνίας.

Second person pronoun is unnecessary ὃν ὑμεῖς ἐσταυρώσατε and therefore marked. In οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ λίθος ὁ ἐξουθενηθεὶς ὑφʼ ὑμῶν τῶν ⸀οἰκοδόμων, ὑμῶν ...
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What Pronunciation scheme do you use?

Just out of curiosity, what pronunciation scheme do you(υμεις) use when reading aloud?

I use the modern pronunciation, except I keep the rough breathing sound. I've been considering using the "oo" sound for the υ in υμεις just for differentiating purposes. But I haven't committed yet because I don't want to loose the consistency I have now.

I've thought of switching to Randall Buth's scheme, but It would be a lot of work to "switch" ...
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Particle Proliferation!

Ιωαννην 20:30 wrote:30 Πολλὰ μὲν οὖν καὶ ἄλλα σημεῖα ἐποίησεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἐνώπιον τῶν μαθητῶν, ἃ οὐκ ἔστιν γεγραμμένα ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ·

Four particles all in a row! two postpositives. What kind of Symantic situation does this bring to the table. I don't really understand this phrase at all. Can someone help me here? It seems multiple particles in a row tend to trip me up rather frequently!

(w00t! no longer a textkit neophyte!)
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principal parts of ἅπτω

What are the principal parts of ἅπτω?

I'm still really struggling with finding the principal parts of verbs. All I'm after is a resource that lists Greek verbs with their six principal parts, but all I've found so far are either resources that list them incompletely, e.g., Mounce's BBG lists only ἧψα as the aorist, but I've since discovered the future ἅψω as well, or something like the LSJ, which tends to list a large ...
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Whic GNT do you use?

Which GNT do you currently read from? There are many editions of the GNT available today, and I was wondering if anyone used something that differs from the standard NA/UBS texts.

I've been using the UBS4 readers edition simply because it has quality binding, good layout for the running dictionary, a good font and small enough to carry around! As far as actual text goes, Im on the fence with a Byzentine text such as ...
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Early Fathers and Church Writings

Hey All,

I've compiled a number of public domain writings from the Apostolic fathers into a handy PDF :) I have, the Didache, number of epistles from Ignatius, Barnabas, Clement, Shephard of Hermas and others in greek. I've formatted them into a document for the purpose of printing a 9 x 6 book (I work at a printshop and my boss lets me run personal jobs from ...
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What kind of genitives are these ?

Phil. 2:6-8,

ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ,ἀλλὰ ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν μορφὴν δούλου λαβών, ἐν ὁμοιώματι ἀνθρώπων γενόμενος· καὶ σχήματι εὑρεθεὶς ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἐταπείνωσεν ἑαυτὸν γενόμενος ὑπήκοος μέχρι θανάτου, θανάτου δὲ σταυροῦ.

I'm inclined to think that θεοῦ and δούλου above are attributive genitives. Opinions ?

This list might be helpful -- http://www.ntgreek.org/pdf/genitive_case.pdf
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Koine Composition

Is there any material that would assist with composition in koine? I've looked at Sedwick's stuff and it looks very decent, but its focus is on Attic! Is it worthwhile learning attic? is there much more to learn in a transition from koine?
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morphological help please. Mk 8.37 'doi'


Mounce lists this verb as being aor act subj 3 sg. The trouble I'm having is that I can't understand why that's the case! I have looked through 'morphology of biblical greek' but am left none the wiser. If anyone is able to explain the form I would be most grateful. Thank you.

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Koine and Word Order

I've been poking around on this general idea for a little bit and can't seem to find anything conclusive on the matter. Is there a "de facto" word order in koine greek? I'd love to here your thoughts and some recommendations for articles or books that cover this area.
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