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galatians 1:1 Two prepositions one meaning?

In Galatians 1:1 Paul uses two ways to express that he has not been made an apostle by men. He uses "ἀπ᾽ ἀνθρώπων" and "δι᾽ ἀνθρώπου" .

Could anyone explain the difference between the two expressions? Here is the full verse:

ΠΑΥΛΟΣ ἀπόστολος, οὐκ ἀπ᾽ ἀνθρώπων οὐδὲ δι᾽ ἀνθρώπου ἀλλὰ διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ θεοῦ πατρὸς τοῦ ἐγείραντος αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν,
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Matthew 26:18

ὁ δὲ εἶπεν Ὑπάγετε εἰς τὴν πόλιν πρὸς τὸν δεῖνα καὶ εἴπατε αὐτῷ Ὁ Διδάσκαλος λέγει Ὁ καιρός μου ἐγγύς ἐστιν πρὸς σὲ. ποιῶ τὸ πάσχα μετὰ τῶν μαθητῶν μου.

I think πρὸς σὲ goes with ἐστιν rather than with ποιῶ . So I would translate as follows:

He said, Go into the city to an acquaintance and tell him, The Teacher says, My appointment with you is near . I will observe the Passover ...
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Jesus meets Headache

Ἡμίκρανον ἐξήρχετο ἀπὸ θάλασσαν κρουόμενον καὶ βρυχούμενον καὶ ὑπήντησε αὐτῷ ὁ κύριος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· ποῦ ὑπάγεις, κράνιον καὶ ἡμικρὰν καὶ πονοκεφάλι καὶ ὀφθαλμόπονον καὶ νεμοπύρωμα καὶ δάκρυα καὶ λεύκωμα καὶ κεφαλοσκότωσις; καὶ ἀπεκρίθη ὁ πονοκέφαλος πρὸς τὸν κύριον ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν· ὑπάγομεν, ἵνα καθίσωμεν εἰς τὴν κεφαλὴν τοῦ δούλου <τοῦ θεοῦ> ὁ δεῖνα· καὶ ὁ κύριος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς λέγει πρὸς αὐτόν· βλέπε, μὴ ὑπάγε εἰς τὸν δοῦλόν μου, ἀλλὰ φεύγετε ...
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A Georgia-6 Special Election Day Treat

ἐνίκησεν ἡ τοῦ Τρπύμπ φίλη. (λέγω τὴν Ἅνδελ.) τὸν γὰρ Πρόεδρον ὁ δῆμος φιλεῖ. καὶ τί λέγω περὶ τοῦ Ὄσσοφφ? χρήματα μὲν τούτῳ πολλὰ, ψῆφοι δ' ὀλίγοι. ἐν δὲ τῷ S.C. -5 ἐνίκησαν καὶ οἱ τοῦ Τρύμπ.
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A Father's Day Treat

τῆς μὲν οὖν ἡμέρας τῶν πατέρων οὐ μέλει μοι, ἀλλὰ τοῦ τῶν ἡμερῶν Πατρός. τί δ' ἐστι ὁ Πατὴρ τῶν ἡμερῶν? Θεὸς δή. πᾶσα γὰρ ἡμέρα ἐκ Θεοῦ γίγνεται.
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πας + substantival participle, which is the substantive?

A passage containing the construction in question is 1 John 5:1--πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων ὅτι Ἰησοῦς ἐστιν ὁ Χριστὸς...

What is the subject of the above clause? Is it πᾶς, with ὁ πιστεύων acting as a modifying adjective? Or is the subject ὁ πιστεύων, with πᾶς acting as a modifying adjective? Or is the whole phrase to be considered the subject?

I know that πᾶς can act as a pronominal adjective, and hence as a substantive. ...
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Potiphar, ἀρχιμάγειρος

οἱ δὲ Μαδιηναῖοι ἀπέδοντο τὸν Ιωσηφ εἰς Αἴγυπτον τῷ Πετεφρη τῷ σπάδοντι Φαραω, ἀρχιμαγείρῳ.

My wife and I have been reading Genesis together. I translate the Greek, and she corrects me from the NIV.

In the above sentence, I wasn't sure what "σπάδοντι" was just by looking at it. Perhaps I could have guessed if I had noticed that derives from σπάω (II. "pluck off"), and it means "eunuch." The Hebrew means the same thing. ...
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Luke 22:19,20

I didn't realize that there were textural issues in Luke 22:19,20 when I quoted it in the other thread. Googling, I found this from the NABRE:

Which will be given…do this in memory of me: these words are omitted in some important Western text manuscripts and a few Syriac manuscripts. Other ancient text types, including the oldest papyrus manuscript of Luke dating from the late second or early third century, contain the longer reading presented ...
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Drink This 'Cup' 1 Cor 11:25

I recently had a study with a minister and he asked 'Do you all drink from 'one cup' when you do comunion?' I replied 'no, there are several small cups in a tray that we drink from' To which he replied 'the church is supposed to drink from 'one cup' (meaning one cup that everyone passes around) and he sited 1 Cor 11. He says 'The Lord 'took the cup' not 'several cups'.

Uggggh. I ...
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Luke 12:49-51

Πῦρ ἦλθον βαλεῖν ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν, καὶ τί θέλω εἰ ἤδη ἀνήφθη. βάπτισμα δὲ ἔχω βαπτισθῆναι, καὶ πῶς συνέχομαι ἕως ὅτου τελεσθῇ. δοκεῖτε ὅτι εἰρήνην παρεγενόμην δοῦναι ἐν τῇ γῇ; οὐχί, λέγω ὑμῖν, ἀλλ’ ἢ διαμερισμόν.

I have at least three problems with this, probably more:

1) ἀνήφθη -- aorist passive, to kindle. Very similar to our expression "the fire has caught," I suppose. Does it apply to the earth here, or to the πῦρ? ...
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