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Does Payne's take on 1 Tim 2:12 pass the smell test?

1 Tim 2:12 (N.A. 27)
διδάσκειν δὲ γυναικὶ οὐκ ἐπιτρέπω, οὐδὲ αὐθεντεῖν ἀνδρός, ἀλλ' εἶναι ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ.


One Philip Payne has written an article in which he finds a way to claim that Paul is not preventing women from teaching here, but only preventing women from teaching in a way that would include them having authority over men. The full article is here:

http://www.pbpayne.com/wp-admin/Payne20 ... im2_12.pdf

from which ...
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Mark 5:18 αὐτοῦ

Mark 5:18 wrote:καὶ ἐμβαίνοντος αὐτοῦ εἰς τὸ πλοῖον παρεκάλει αὐτὸν ὁ δαιμονισθεὶς ἵνα μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ ᾖ


I have a question about the use of αὐτοῦ in this verse, it may seem arbitrary, but I think "knowing the answer" will help me understand some of the syntax here. So, here's my question:

Should we see αὐτοῦ with the participle in a "Genitive absolute" construction or does it go with πλοῖον? The difference would be...

Genitive absolute: "And ...
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a master list of vowel and consonant variants

I searched in vain through my library and on-line for a comprehensive treatment of textual variants caused by confusion of vowels and consonants. All I could come up with is bits and pieces of such a list. Isolated fragments mined out of ancient grammars making reference to long time gone famous NT scholars.

What I am envisioning is a table showing all the kinds of "errors" which crop up in manuscripts due to sounds that ...
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Inspecting 1 John 1:1

Ὃ ἦν ἀπ' ἀρχῆς, ὃ ἀκηκόαμεν, ὃ ἑωράκαμεν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ἡμῶν, ὃ ἐθεασάμεθα καὶ αἱ χεῖρες ἡμῶν ἐψηλάφησαν, περὶ τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς


(A) I tend to think that the relative pronoun ὃ refers to τοῦ λόγου in the phrase τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς . In other words, I believe the antecedent of ὃ above is τοῦ λόγου .

(B) Also I believe that the genitive ζωῆς in the prepositional phrase above is related ...
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Epexegetical Genitive in Philippians 2:6-7

Hey, folks.

I thought we could discuss the idea of the epexegetical genitive and if the phrases μορφὴ θεοῦ and μορφὴ δούλου are examples of such.

I'd like to give my thoughts on this, but first I'd like to get your opinions, if possible.

Markos - what do you think?

Thanks,
Jason
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Acts Bezae English Translation

This is a project I started and gave up on in the late 1990s. I have a library copy of the commentary and monograph on Bezae Acts by JOSEP RIUS-CAMPS and JENNY READ-HEIMERDINGER. I am not following their conclusions about Bezae, just using it as a reference along with Ropes edition Bezae D 05 (Greek text).

1 In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach, 2 until ...
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γὰρ ... γὰρ ... γὰρ ... Galatians 1:10-13

Pulling this out of the Byzantine Text thread. So we can alert others who might want to contribute.

10 Ἄρτι γὰρ ἀνθρώπους πείθω ἢ τὸν θεόν; ἢ ζητῶ ἀνθρώποις ἀρέσκειν; εἰ ἔτι ἀνθρώποις ἤρεσκον, Χριστοῦ δοῦλος οὐκ ἂν ἤμην. 11 Γνωρίζω γὰρ ὑμῖν, ἀδελφοί, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τὸ εὐαγγελισθὲν ὑπ᾿ ἐμοῦ ὅτι οὐκ ἔστιν κατὰ ἄνθρωπον· 12 οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐγὼ παρὰ ἀνθρώπου παρέλαβον αὐτὸ οὔτε ἐδιδάχθην ἀλλὰ δι᾿ ἀποκαλύψεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ. 13 Ἠκούσατε γὰρ τὴν ἐμὴν ...
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Byzantine Textform

So, I received the 2005 edition of Robertson/peirpont GNT in the mail last Monday, and I must say that I am extremely happy with it :) The book has solid binding, has a beautiful appearance, and its well laid out. With that being said, this in not a review, rather I wanted to bring up a discussion of textual criticism of the New Testament, I'm not sure ...
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sub-set propositions

According to Wallace in GGBB, p. 41, there are two types of S-PN constructions.

(a) The subset proposition. >> This is where the S (subject) is a subset of the PN (predicate nominative).

(b) The convertible proposition. >> This construction indicates an identical exchange. This is the less frequent semantic relationship between S and PN. In this construction, both nouns have an identical referent. The mathematical formulas of A=B, B=A are applicable in such instances. ...
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Vocab sorted via NT book?

Anyone know of some "flashcard software" that has vocabulary separated by frequency in NT Book? I'd like to be able to memorize vocabulary as I go through certain chapters and books! It seems more relevant than going through random words.
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