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Gal. 1:1 Θεοῦ Πατρὸς

Let's print out the verse:

Παῦλος ἀπόστολος, οὐκ ἀπ’ ἀνθρώπων οὐδὲ δι’ ἀνθρώπου ἀλλὰ διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ Θεοῦ Πατρὸς τοῦ ἐγείραντος αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν,


Most translations render above as "God the Father." For example,

New International Version

Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--



However this is an ungrammatical translation since the bold English expression ...
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Does Mounce get easier after Chapter 30

I am just wrapping up participles and my other classes are getting busy too. Can I expect it to get easier as I move into the subjunctive and infinitive etc. or should I brace myself for even harder work?
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ἀρνίον Revelation & ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ John

The question has come up again about both meaning and the identity (referent) of τὸ ἀρνίον τὸ ἐσφαγμένον in the Apocalypse. A discussion of which might be launched by looking at ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ in GJn 1:29,36.

John 1:29 Τῇ ἐπαύριον βλέπει τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐρχόμενον πρὸς αὐτὸν καὶ λέγει· ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ὁ αἴρων τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου.

John 1:36 καὶ ἐμβλέψας τῷ Ἰησοῦ περιπατοῦντι λέγει· ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ.

Rev. ...


Inspecting John 20:28

ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ Θεός μου.


The thing which immediately stands out for me here is that underlined is a TSKTS construction. In the bible, TSKTS (article substantive kai article substantive) constructions almost invariably connote two different individuals. Now, in order to conduct proper exegesis, we must always stay within the bounds of what the grammar allows us to do, and in this case the grammar is telling us ...
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Origen on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Do you mind if I re-post a question I asked recently at B-Greek, but which hasn't yet prompted any replies?

It's a sentence from Origen's commentary on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Καὶ ἄλλοθεν δὲ τοῦτο παραστήσω, εἰ καὶ ἐκεῖνο ἀσφαλέστερον εἴρηται περὶ τοῦ μὴ τὴν γυναῖκα ἡγεμόνα γίνεσθαι τῷ λόγῳ τοῦ ἀνδρός·

I am trying to understand what ἐκεῖνο is referring to here. There is a translation by Judith Kovacs of almost all the whole passage, ...
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the Text of the Apocalypse of John

This a first post in a series. I am working on translating variation units for the the Apocalypse of John somewhat like the Acts Bezae project but a slightly different focus. Not sticking with one manuscript like I did with Bezae project. Here is a question I raised on another forum where I was only one (so far) to respond.

Rev. 8:6 Καὶ οἱ ἑπτὰ ἄγγελοι οἱ ἔχοντες τὰς ἑπτὰ σάλπιγγας ἡτοίμασαν αὐτοὺς ἵνα σαλπίσωσιν. ...
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Μυριόβιβλος

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/index_gen_en.html

This is a link of many texts, mainly religious. It has both testaments in greek, and many liturgical texts. For example it has the liturgy of st. Chrysostom, which is the most common mass today. Many people know parts of it by heart, because you hear them so often you learn it like a poem.

It has texts in english and modern greek as well.

I thought that those who study NT greek may ...
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Some oddities in biblic greek

I am learning greek and at the same time trying to read some parts of the Old Testament (in the Septuaginta). The last time I learned greek in school was 20 years ago, so it's quite a challenge... Also, sorry if my english is bad, my native language is french.

Here I am a bit puzzled by Genesis 32.27-28 (see http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/physis/s ... 2.asp?pg=3 but I use a recent edition ...
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Recognising Gender in -ος ending

I have been studying hermeneutics. I have difficulty in recognizing gender in Koine Greek. Since both masculine and feminine ends in -os. E.g. Λογoς and όδος. Both of those two words end in -ος. How would I know the gender use?
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Col 2:23 what goes with what?

Col 2:23:
ἅτινά ἐστιν λόγον μὲν ἔχοντα σοφίας ἐν ἐθελοθρησκίᾳ καὶ ταπεινοφροσύνῃ καὶ ἀφειδίᾳ σώματος, οὐκ ἐν τιμῇ τινι πρὸς πλησμονὴν τῆς σαρκός.


This is one of the most difficult verses in the Greek New Testament. Some have argued that the text as it stands is corrupt.

Should ἐστιν be construed with ἔχοντα as a periphrastic present ("which things have a word of wisdom...") or is ἔχοντα a separate participle clause and does ἐστιν ...
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